A Masterpiece on the Immaculate Conception

The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8th, 2021 | Michael Pakaluk

[Elsie]

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• A Masterpiece on the Immaculate Conception

  12/21/2021, 2:17:44 AM · 460 of 460
  Elsie to Mark17

  Thanks for NUTTIN!

  I wandered off into a rabbit hole of vaguely linked Youtube videos, fueled by my insatiable curiosity about what lies just beyond the bend.

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  12/21/2021, 1:15:48 AM · 80 of 81
  Elsie to AFPhys

 

 

I know - what's he doing up so late/early?

[Mark17]

Got any more good Limericks? 🙃😀

[Elsie]

Not before breakfast...

[Mr. K]

Yes, something we CAN NEVER KNOW deserves hours and hours of discussion, instead of - oh, let’s say... helping the poor, and guiding those in need.

While we argue impossibilities among ourselves evil is taking over the world.

[Elsie]

Evil has always had the world!

We Americans merely have had the good fortune to be born in a place and a time when the view from our porches showed a lessening of it - for a while.

[Mark17]

Not before breakfast...

Breakfast? It’s almost 11 PM here. 🙃😀

[MHGinTN]

Is it any wonder then how powerful is the deception of believing the ORG of Catholiciism is ‘The One True Church’? The conflation is a satanic deception which has been too successful ushering people away from Body of Christ birthed on the Day of Pentecost. Once alienated the ORG offers saints and ‘Marian dogma’ to keep the focus off of The Christ, the One True Ekklesia.

[Mark17]

Is it any wonder then how powerful is the deception of believing the ORG of Catholiciism is ‘The One True Church’? The conflation is a satanic deception which has been too successful ushering people away from Body of Christ birthed on the Day of Pentecost. Once alienated the ORG offers saints and ‘Marian dogma’ to keep the focus off of The Christ, the One True Ekklesia.

Fortunately, some of us saw through the trappings, and were able to leave the OTC in the rear view mirror. 👍

[af_vet_1981]

Fine with the Catechism (paragraph 789):
1. the unity of all her members with each other as a result of their union with Christ
2. Christ as head of the Body
3. the Church as bride of Christ

As for the other reference, did you know it was from a cult ?

Google CGG and Ritenbaugh

[MHGinTN]

To whom, in your mind does the ‘her’ refer to?{HINT: it is not an org such as The Roman Catholic Church; it is a spiritual reference to ALL believers who have Christ as their Savior.}

[af_vet_1981]

To whom, in your mind does the ‘her’ refer to?

The Church

• 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
• 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

• 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
• 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
• 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
• 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

[MHGinTN]

Lots of words, bottom line you think it refers to your chosen ORG. Therein is the flaw in your religious reasoning.

[Mark17]

To whom, in your mind does the ‘her’ refer to?

The Church

We will have to define “church,” cuz I think we have different opinions of what the “church” means. For that matter, we need to define what we mean by “Jesus Christ.” I keep saying, it’s not enough to have faith in Jesus. We must have faith in the RIGHT Jesus.
The second set of verses you left there, have NOTHING to do with ANYTHING except church discipline. That’s all it refers to. Nothing more, nothing less.

[MHGinTN]

He can’t help it, the conflation has been so dominant in his religious life that he does not comprehend there even is conflation going on.

[Mark17]

Lots of words, bottom line you think it refers to your chosen ORG. Therein is the flaw in your religious reasoning.

That’s why I say we have to define our terms. “Church” means different things to different people. The most important thing, is the plan of salvation. I think the Catholic plan of salvation, is different from the Biblical plan of salvation. 😆😀👍

[Mark17]

👍

[boatbums]

Fine with the Catechism (paragraph 789): the unity of all her members with each other as a result of their union with Christ Christ as head of the Body the Church as bride of Christ

I just wanted to show that Christians/believers are who make up the church and collectively comprise the Bride of Christ. We don't have to see an exact term used in the Bible to logically understand a concept or term is Biblical. It appeared you were challenging MHGinTN over the term.

As for the other reference, did you know it was from a cult ?

So what? All it shows are numerous places in Scripture where Israel is described as the Wife of the LORD. This "cult" didn't invent those verses from Scripture that refer to Israel as the Wife of the LORD. Did you read them?

[boatbums]

To compose a limerick in no time flat,
Takes quite the wit and nothing to sneeze at.
But our Freeper dudes
In light-hearted feuds
Come through every time just like that.

[MHGinTN]

Bravo! ... Okay guys, she’s thrown down the gauntlet.

[Mark17]

Bravo! ... Okay guys, she’s thrown down the gauntlet.

Yes indeedy. A limerick war is on the horizon. 👍🤗