"Dr Awe goes into a much deeper dive on why it has to be this Oct 7-8 as a celebration of the Feast of Trumpets. He is linked to the original post." - Before "Oct 7-8"
Posted on 10/03/2021 11:37:08 PM PDT by Salvavida
Guys, we're looking at scriptural and logical reasons to see Oct 7-8 2021 as being HIGH WATCH time for the RAPTURE! Am I setting a date? NO. Do I know for sure it will happen then? NO. Remember our hope is in Jesus Christ, and not in a date. However, there is reason to look at this October 7-8 as a HIGH WATCH period. God bless!
The rapture done happen. We are all in the clouds — Azure is the best :)
The rapture as the post tribulation rapture folks of Darby think it, isn’t “a thing” - it’s not biblical at all.
Azure?!? The One True Church of AWS excommunicates you, heretic!
It appears the pivotal point is one’s choice of the meaning of “taken” and “left”.
Noah was “left” in safety to live on earth; Noah was “taken” to safety to live on earth.
The Jews celebrated Rosh Hashanah falsely. And Atonement and Tabernacles, but not based on the wrong month. But by starting their month incorrectly.
Off by a day at least. (But they don’t have the Son, so they don’t have the Father)
But the Feast of Tabernacles was still in the Fall.
September 22 was The Father’s 15th Day.
October 8 would have been the 1st Day of the Father’s 8th month then.
A New Moon Day.
Interesting that the Woman was clothed with the sun and the moon was under her feet.
But that can happen in Babylonian September or October.
But still represents the New Moon Day.
And still an Appointment.
Still a holy day.
Still a day that points to Genesis 1:1, John 1:1, John 1:14.
It’s the harvest in the spring that determines the start, and since I have been following the calendar, and saw the sign of Revelation 12 in September 2014, the Father has years of 3 where He has 12 months, 12 months, 13 months.
This coming winter will have a 4th winter month, a 13th month, to catch the Moon lunar portion and the solar portion of His clock up.
It’s remarkable that every time it is supposed to be the First Spring month on this pattern, Israel has fields available for harvest.
2013-2021 isn’t a long track record to track, but the patterns haven’t deviated.
And it means that we are currently in His 8th month as in the days of Moses, or the 2nd month, as in the days of Noah.
But I readily admit,that it’s by faith. And that faith walk has been rewarded by Him who controls all time..
The big question now is, “Is this a jubilee year?” because if that is the case, Feast of Tabernacles and Atonement will be satisfied together.
But we are not going into 2022. There just isn’t room to make the math work.
"Dr Awe goes into a much deeper dive on why it has to be this Oct 7-8 as a celebration of the Feast of Trumpets. He is linked to the original post." - Before "Oct 7-8"
Not sure I comprehend your statement about not going into 2022 (?).
And the math behind it..
And jubilee year.
I suspect it can still be a Jubilee year.
I am more curious about when the about 2,000 years hinted at with the about 2,000 demon possessed swine and the about 2,000 cubits in Joshua, are up.
It appears Spiritual Israel was also supposed to have about 2,000 cubits distance from the ark before crossing into the Promised Land.
Christ being in heaven for these last about 2,000 years is prophetic timing for sure.
40x50 is a jubilee of sorts in and of itself.
That began with the deliverance from bondage of sin by His Passover Blood, as scholars put it, AD 30,31,32,33, depending on scholarship..
We are certainly close to about 2,000 years with that.
But maybe even another 7+ years to any of those.
To date, Passover is still not observed when the Man is carrying the jar of water, as detailed in Mark and Luke.
The sign above Israel’s head at Passover is still the 2 Fish.
But the next sign to come is the Man carrying the jar of water , at Passover.
Some signs point to immediately.
Some signs still point to future.
But closer every day..
Two Fish and Woman today at Passover and Tabernacles
Future
Man Carrying a jar of water at Passover
Lion from the Tribe of Judah, at Tabernacles
Not yet above our heads. But close.
And a few major quakes could probably move things along a little faster..
I'm pretty sure it did - but rather than vanishing entirely, 80% of the population was replaced with mindless, reptilian-manufactured emo-bots. :)
Ref Dr Barry Awe on YouTube, he explains how the math comes from the prophecies. He is also running off of this document: https://www.endtime-studies.com/pyton/rapture-dates/
Assumptions:
1. Christ fulfills and will fulfill all Feasts because they belong to him. The next two are Trumpets and Atonement that have not been fulfilled.
2. There is no randomness in God keeping his appointments with man. The end was told from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) and keeping a schedule demonstrates God’s power and sovereignty.
2. Matt 24 Fig Leaf parable is Israel which indicates after summer and leads into fall.
3. Prov 90:10 defines generation (80 years)
4. Christ will return on a Day of Atonement for 2nd Advent.
5. Matt 24:36 is commonly misinterpreted to mean no one knows the hour/day of Jesus’ return. The context was given in verse 35: NO ONE knows when heaven and earth will pass away. Hebrews 10:24-25 indicates those who watch will know the day by implication.
6. The Math: 2nd Advent is 30 Sept 2028 because it is the last Day of Atonement before Israel turns 81 years since their resurrection as a nation on 14 May 1948; a 7 year tribulation has to be squeezed into the timeline before this happens....so 2021 is the last year (counting days and translated from the solar calendar to Gregorian.)
7. Now that Feast of Trumpets has passed (Oct 7-8), it is still possible BOTH Rosh Hoshana and Atonement can be fulfilled by Christ on the same day if this is a Jubilee year. As we are now in the Days of Awe (signifying repentance before judgment), circle the calendar for Oct 17 2021.
I was shocked the church was not raptured 8-9 Oct.....but it makes perfect sense God chose a path that gives humans the maximum opportunity to repent via a Jubilee year: there is no way anyone could have written it out better.
But if you want to do this every two weeks, I guess you can. Neither one of us is likely to be "raptured," except eventually the old-fashioned way.
Now I see what you were talking about.
I tend to see a rapture event a little differently.
Using the Mount of Transfiguration as the template.
Only a small remnant got to go up with Christ on the Mount to see Him come in His Kingdom.
The remaining 9 disciples were down on the ground fighting, and losing, to demons.
That event is hinted at to happen about 144 days after Passover, which is when Moses comes down the Mount for the last time (40+40) and his face glows. (Exodus 34)
It’s interesting that Elijah also has a moment on the mount where he has to cover his face.
Just like Moses. A picture of the glory that was on the Mount. Just like at the Transfiguration.
Noting that Moses and Elijah were both on the Mount of Transfiguration, and also on the Mount Sinai at most likely the same times in the year, it’s possible that what the church today sees as the rapture, is limited.
Limited to a remnant.
I believe The 144,000 is a clue in Revelation of some sort.
So is the 144 days and Passover.
And those who follow the Lamb.
A first fruits offering.
Which happens in the Spring, but the event of the Mount hints at 144 days after Passover, a Summer event.
About a month before the Fall Atonement and Tabernacles, every year.
In Luke’s version, Christ and a remnant come down the mount the next day.
Not the same day.
That’s a clue to something as it contradicts Mathew and Mark’s versions..
It is interesting, by knowing when Moses comes down and his face glows, is about 144 days from Passover, that’s about one month before Atonement and Tabernacles.
If 12 hours = 1 Day period, then 12 months = 1 Day period.
1 month= 1 hour of that day.
One church was to be delivered from the ‘hour of trial’ that was to come to the earth.
The Philadelphia church.
The Mount of Transfiguration would be a month before the Fall Day of Atonement and Tabernacles Feast. About 144 days after Passover.
The Trumpet is also blown on the 10th Day of the 7th Month in the year of Jubilee.
As you can tell, I see the end times differently.
But only because I see time differently.
And only because He opened my eyes!
For His Glory!
It is exciting times we live in.
Bless your heart.
The problem with that approach is hermeneutics. You spiritualize passages and read into things that are not there. It becomes preference.
The Is 28:10 instructs us to build precept upon precept, so there must be support to build a doctrine. It cannot come out of thin air or fancy.
On the contrary, a passage has to be found in Scripture that is authoritative in context to construct what we are talking about (the rapture). Prophecies first, then “types” and patterns second.
For instance, there is nothing in the Bible saying Rev 4 starts out with John in his vision, playing the part of the church being raptured. The language suggests it foretells the rapture......because the church isn’t mentioned again as an agent on earth after chapter 3. But that is the most likely place, all things considered. The pattern fits— but we are not getting it from Rev 4; we build from 1 Thess and Matt 24 primarily....then support it else where.
You belief absolutely does violence to 1 Thess 4:13-18. The rapture is everyone, “if” they believe in Christ and his resurrection; both dead and living. There is no room for any other theology describing who is involved.
For those saying there is no rapture....well.....there isn’t any studying either if that is their position.
How is playing a fool before the world going to do anything but negative for those who are not yet born again? You have made a massive error and should be ashamed of yourself. Sadly, I suspect your service to stan’s lies prevents you feeling shame.
I have no idea what you are talking about. What does this have to do with the unborn? Logic much?
Ashamed of watching and waiting? Hello Hebrews 10:24-25. Ashamed of studying the Bible?
You should be ashamed of yourself. The rapture is a thing. It will happen. It will happened soon and suddenly.
Have you ever heard the story of the little one who yelled wolf when there was no wolf? If you've heard it, do you cpmprehend the meaning/lesson?
Your effort to defend your foolishness is only glaring more foolishness.
The Rapture is an event which removes living Christians from this 4D realm, to a greater dimensional realm THEN be caught up to join the dead who are ready rising to the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. That transition prophesied by Paul is why the ones not transformed will not and can not sense what has happened. They will not see the Lord and will lose sight of us instantly. The confusion foolish prediction like you posted aids the lie when that great lie is issued to explain awy our disappearance.
You don’t know what the word “prophesy” means, that is your shame. Not knowing something as fundamental as that, also speaks your lack of biblical knowledge because you have not studied.
To make a claim of prophetic utterance means to assert to speak for God, which I did not and do not. I took Scripture, examined it as others are doing, and put the pieces together by using Scripture. Loving God’s word, and out of concern for others, to warn them that we are in a season to watch. Then I gave the reasons for it.
How did the church get the doctrine of the Trinity, when the word trinity isn’t mentioned? They searched the Scriptures and put the doctrine together. Same with the doctrine of the church and all other matters the Bible speaks of.
As for the day and hour issue, Matt 24 is answering three questions the disciples posed to Jesus. I’ll let you look that up. It isn’t answering any specific question about the Rapture....although Jesus later squeezes it in non-chronologically when he discusses signs of the time. But “that Day” always refers to 2nd advent. Always. It never refers to rapture, which is a separate event. I’ll let you look that up because you are lacking in scholarship.
The other problem with not knowing the “day and hour” is Jesus was speaking to his disciples on his earthly ministry. There was more revelation AFTER he ascended. A lot more. As in, the entire New Testament more. That is a hermeneutical issue. Furthermore Hebrews 10:24-25 by implication says we should see “the day approaching” (2nd advent— not rapture). That isn’t going to come by not studying.
So your charge that I am claiming to be a prophet speaking for God, is false. Equally false is your understanding of the day/hour of the Son of man.
Finally, I’ll say this one more time for the slow learners: if the Fig tree parable in Matt 24:32-34 is Israel, and Psalm 90:10 defines a generation as 80, we are not getting past 2021 before a Rapture of the Church. The math simply doesn’t work out: so whatever claim I make, I make because of Scripture.
If you can convince me otherwise by using Scripture, I will hear it.
And by the way.....this is a forum on RELIGION where such things are discussed.
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