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To: delchiante

The problem with that approach is hermeneutics. You spiritualize passages and read into things that are not there. It becomes preference.

The Is 28:10 instructs us to build precept upon precept, so there must be support to build a doctrine. It cannot come out of thin air or fancy.

On the contrary, a passage has to be found in Scripture that is authoritative in context to construct what we are talking about (the rapture). Prophecies first, then “types” and patterns second.

For instance, there is nothing in the Bible saying Rev 4 starts out with John in his vision, playing the part of the church being raptured. The language suggests it foretells the rapture......because the church isn’t mentioned again as an agent on earth after chapter 3. But that is the most likely place, all things considered. The pattern fits— but we are not getting it from Rev 4; we build from 1 Thess and Matt 24 primarily....then support it else where.

You belief absolutely does violence to 1 Thess 4:13-18. The rapture is everyone, “if” they believe in Christ and his resurrection; both dead and living. There is no room for any other theology describing who is involved.

For those saying there is no rapture....well.....there isn’t any studying either if that is their position.


75 posted on 10/11/2021 5:33:03 PM PDT by Salvavida (Even now, come Lord Jesus!)
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To: Salvavida

If someone sees the modern church as the woman and whore of Babylon, then the whole church being gone in the end is not accurate.
It’s there.
As a whore.

That’s a premise the church can’t accept.

But the church calls today Moon Day and tomorrow false God Tiws day..
And it doesn’t get much better later in Satans false week either..

I see Babylon much different than the church.
That’s okay.
Because I see Jesus differently than the church too.
December 25 is false.
And the church doesn’t get anything right at His death either..

I see Revelation 12 happening daily.
Satan deceiving the whole world.

Some are still waiting for that..


81 posted on 10/11/2021 7:21:05 PM PDT by delchiante
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