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To: MurphsLaw

In Catholicism there is no reconciling what you imagine is a contradiction. Your religion teaches a works based salvation, so God Justifying someone for just ‘pistis’ in whom God sent for their salvation is unintelligible for the Catholic mind. Also, the love Paul writes of is translated in other Bible versions as charity, and you are purposely flipping Justification and Sanctification to support the Catholic works religion ... oh never mind, you won’t get it regardless of how it is explained to you. You want the Catholicism religion to be the truth and all others not, so you are not open to receive in your spirit.


11 posted on 07/13/2021 5:56:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN

Speaking as a former Roman Catholic, I believe that in order for them to be open to the truth, they have to want to hear it - even though it may blow a hole in their entire worldview.

Only the Holy Spirit can reach them. He reached me.

It’s not impossible.


14 posted on 07/13/2021 9:44:59 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: MHGinTN
In Catholicism there is no reconciling what you imagine is a contradiction.

The Catholic Church teaches- and the Councils have condemned for centuries- that your claim of ANY idea that We can be be justified by Works- or EARN our salvation is not POSSIBLE- anyone who thinks that is "accursed".

You continue to spout a falsehood about the Church that is not part of the Church's teaching at all. For Pete's sake - an ATHEIST can do good works (and I'm sure some do). But that counts as nothing. It's obvious "good works" is not something we can justify ourselves by. If that were the case- Who needs a resurrected Christ then?
Who then needs Christ within him through the Eucharist?
You are ill-informed on what The Church teaches.

Think of it this way - as a combination of these verses:
"As it is written: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him unto justice.
21 "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar?

Does God NOT also ask of us to transform are unworthiness?
Did Abraham so Love God in such a way - that he would sacrifice his Son?? If he was once and for all "unto Justice"- Why the need of the Altar?

We must DO (action) the Will of God in our earthly lives as well, to fight the good fight to our end, which requires Faith andLove as St. Paul wrote...

Call them "works" to muddy the water if you must...but water that is obscured is for your eyes...
15 posted on 07/13/2021 1:05:21 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.")
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