That’s the doctrine of antichrist coming from you.
Secondly, sure, we all know that men and women having relations the normal way would be a sign from God. /sarcsam.
And no, Isaiah wasn’t talking about Hezekiah either.
In the end, the Masoretic Text is just too corrupted to be trustworthy.
Secondly, sure, we all know that men and women having relations the normal way would be a sign from God. /sarcsam.
Christians: But OUR god is the SON of G-d! (Like the Greeks and Romans do... but like, without Zeus seizing maidens)
Jews: Do you even read Hebrew braugh?
I prefer to use what is to me a more precise term of Rabbinical Jewish meaning the other sect of Judaism that survived the destruction of the temple.
Christianity, reading historically and in the Bible and Talmud is really a sect of 2nd temple Judaism - it takes the old testament books, it rejects Marcionite/Gnostic concepts of the Godhead, and it retains the concept of Judaic sacrifices with the caveat that these were superseded by Jesus' sacrifice
Pharisee sect 2nd temple Judaism had already partially replaced the priests with the rabbis and after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD basically reinvented or invented a religion without the sacrifices in the temple (which were KEY to the Sadducees, etc.) and then built up a monumental theology that we see in the extremely complex Talmud
christianity and rabbinical judaism are competing sects of 2nd temple Judaism. Rabbinical Judaism in its earlier avatar (apologies for dropping in Sanatana Dharma terms here) as Pharisee Judaism did win over Christianity until 70 AD and was seemingly triumphant until 132 AD and the failure of the last of the Jewish Messiah figures - Bar Kochkba (son of the Star, i.e. Son of God that was the term used for the leader of that last Jewish rebellion).
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with regards to Phinneous' point of Alma
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The Hebrew word for “young virgin” was alma. The Hebrew word for virgin was bethula, which did not specify age or purity. Alma, however, had a twofold meaning. alma denotes not only “maiden” or “virgin” but “hidden,” “secret’, “that is, one never exposed to the gaze of men but kept under close custody by her parents.” Hence, the Septuagint rendering of Isaias 7:14 did not use any of the several Greek words for “girl,” rather, these Jewish scholars used the Greek word parthenos, which means, exclusively, “virgin.”
Although there may be exceptions among Jewish writers from from the early Christian centuries (Trypho the Jew, whom Saint Justin [+165] debated in his Dialogues, is allegedly one), generally speaking, the Jews understood the Isaian verse to mean “young virgin.” This was certainly the case in the second century before Christ. The reason I say that Trypho is “allegedly” one is that modern Jewish scholars believe that Trypho was a fictional character invented by Justin for polemical purposes to refute Jewish arguments then used by rabbis (some scholars think the main one was Rabbi Tarphon mentioned in the Talmud) to deny that Jesus was the Messiah.
The Hebrew word alma is used seven times in the inspired text of the Old Testament. It always means “a young maiden” and in two cases it explicitly can only mean “virgin.” The first time it is so employed in the explicit and latter sense is when Abraham’s servant is explaining to Laban, Rebecca’s brother, how he had prayed to the Lord saying “…and may it be that the maiden (“alma”) who comes out to draw [water]…” would be the right woman to become Isaac’s bride” (Gen. 24:43). Earlier in the chapter, a description of Rebecca is given in verse 16 which says, “And the girl was very beautiful, a virgin (alma), and no man had had relations with her…”
Little more time for you. Let’s see what the DSS Great Isaiah scroll says then— is that considered authoritative?
http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah#7:14