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To: HarleyD
The idea of Mary being the Mother of God-Jesus is not just a "Catholic idea" - that is the belief of the Assyrian Church (the ancient church of the East), of the Copts, the Ethiopians, the Armenian Church, the Eastern Orthodox etc.

It was used by Athanasius in the 300s AD and the core function then as now is to point to Jesus - that Jesus was borne by his creation - Mary was mother i.e. bore her creator. Her son preceded her, her son created her.

And Jesus was not some other-worldly phantasm or had no connection to the human situation but was born, lived and died as a human and yet as God.

The term mother of God anchors him as human as well as God. Her role is as the bearer.

148 posted on 06/12/2021 10:36:11 PM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos
The idea of Mary being the Mother of God-Jesus is not just a "Catholic idea" - that is the belief of the Assyrian Church (the ancient church of the East), of the Copts, the Ethiopians, the Armenian Church, the Eastern Orthodox etc.

I've studied the Eastern Orthodox church. There was much disagreement between the western church and the eastern church-between Augustine and Pelagius. With much respect to our EO friends, I totally disagree with their soteriology. So I'm not sure if quoting an Eastern believer as gospel is a compelling argument.

that Jesus was borne by his creation - Mary was mother i.e. bore her creator. Her son preceded her, her son created her.

The scriptures NEVER talk this way. At best it refers to Christ as the Son of David.

No true Christian would argue that our Lord wasn't fully God and fully man. While I KNOW what YOU are saying, inferring that Jesus "was borne" smacks of cultism. Christ always existed. He is the Creator. No greater statement is given on this than Col 1:15-19.

The incarnation is a great mystery that one should not subscribe more than what is revealed in scripture.
154 posted on 06/13/2021 5:36:34 AM PDT by HarleyD (Dr E-"There are very few shades of grey.")
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