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Salvation is a free gift of God - Have confidence you are saved!
Teleios ^ | Teleios

Posted on 03/31/2021 8:42:15 AM PDT by Teleios Research

Be convinced of these 4 biblical truths: 1. Each of us has sinned; 2. God is just, requiring a punishment for sin; 3. But out of love God sent His Son, Jesus Christ who by dying on the cross, provided forgiveness of sins in taking man’s deserved punishment; 4. Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins and belief in His resurrection, man can gain eternal life. (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 3:21-26)


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: christianity; gospel; salvation
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To: ADSUM
Anyone who knowingly and deliberately rejects the Church will be lost.

Yes, this carries all the authority of Islam saying all infidels are condemned.

They believe it. It is as false as the claims of rome.

And no amount of “church” attendance or prayer apart from the Church Jesus established, the Catholic Church, will get them to heaven if that is the case.

No amount of any church attendance or prayer will every get a soul to heaven.

Christ alone saves, as Scripture says clearly. Not a church, or prayer, or beads, or candles or idols.

Nor did Christ establish the roman church.

Such silliness that ignores Scripture and exalts itself!

NO SALE!

I choose Christ and Him alone.

PS - shouldn't you be trying to clean up your largely homosexual clergy??

481 posted on 04/06/2021 9:23:19 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: ADSUM; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN; metmom; Iscool; Elsie; Mom MD; SouthernClaire
Sorry bro, I disagree with every single interpretation you gave. Every last one of them. Everyone of them. So much so, that I don’t believe there is really any reason to discuss things with you any further.
If you want to stay in your chosen religion, knock yourself out, but I am gone, and I ain’t NEVER coming back. 👍 I am comfortable with that. 😁
482 posted on 04/06/2021 9:36:30 AM PDT by Mark17 (US Air Force, retired. It was a long 20 years. )
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To: Mark17

Your question: “Why wound anyone, with two functioning brain cells, choose the lake that burns? Can you enlighten me? “

I think this question should be addressed to you and answered by you unless you don’t have two brain cells.

I will dispute every false belief that comes from Satan that you may believe and answer with God’s Truth (even if you don’t like it).

You make assumptions that are not based on Biblical facts or explained. You may believe the lies of Satan that you are saved before your death, but that is not what Jesus has told us.

May you truly find God’s Truth in the Catholic Faith and turn away from false man-made beliefs.

I will pray for your salvation. Peace be with you.


483 posted on 04/06/2021 5:58:57 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: Cronos
Have you plucked out your eye or tongue?

This is an apt example of why "Call no man father" was not intended to be simply taken literally.
484 posted on 04/06/2021 6:03:23 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: ADSUM
... but that is not what Jesus has told us.

Nor quite what the Apostle Peter wrote when he signified grace to be provided in the future (to be brought)

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Persevering in faith, hope, and love; with all holiness, until Messiah returns.
485 posted on 04/06/2021 6:09:47 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Nor did Christ establish the roman church.

Yes, He did.

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

486 posted on 04/06/2021 6:13:55 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981; Mark17

Man!

You haven’t come around generating random verses in a vey long time!

Welcome back!!


487 posted on 04/06/2021 6:15:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: ADSUM; Mark17
You make assumptions that are not based on Biblical facts or explained.

HMMMmmm...


 
 
 
JerusalemRome
Psalm 34 
  
Of David.
When he pretended to be insane before Abimelek, who drove him away, and he left.

   1 I will extol the LORD at all times; his praise will always be on my lips.
   2 I will glory in the LORD; let the afflicted hear and rejoice.
   3 Glorify the LORD with me; let us exalt his name together.
   4 I sought the LORD, and he answered me; he delivered me from all my fears.
   5 Those who look to him are radiant; their faces are never covered with shame.
   6 This poor man called, and the LORD heard him; he saved him out of all his troubles.
   7 The angel of the LORD encamps around those who fear him, and he delivers them.
   8 Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.
   9 Fear the LORD, you his holy people, for those who fear him lack nothing.
 10 The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the LORD lack no good thing.
 11 Come, my children, listen to me; I will teach you the fear of the LORD.
 12 Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days,
 13 keep your tongue from evil and your lips from telling lies.
 14 Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.
 15 The eyes of the LORD are on the righteous, and his ears are attentive to their cry;
 16 but the face of the LORD is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth.
 17 The righteous cry out, and the LORD hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.
 18 The LORD is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
 19 The righteous person may have many troubles, but the LORD delivers him from them all;
 20 he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.
 21 Evil will slay the wicked; the foes of the righteous will be condemned.
 22 The LORD will rescue his servants; no one who takes refuge in him will be condemned.
The15 promises  
Of 'Mary'
(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death.
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.
 
Choose ye this day...
 
 
 

488 posted on 04/06/2021 6:31:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/h162_Rosary_2.htm


489 posted on 04/06/2021 6:35:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
... generating random verses ...

Read (and believe) what the Apostle Peter wrote. They are not random verses to those who believe.
490 posted on 04/06/2021 6:46:12 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

Since it did not prove the Roman Catholic Church of today was founded by Christ, it was random, based on the word Rome being present in the verse.


491 posted on 04/06/2021 6:50:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

False; bring to remembrance those who did not believe, those who fell away; there was never enough proof for them; murmuring is not a discipline.


492 posted on 04/06/2021 7:07:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: metmom

Your comment: “Roman 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”

Some may think that they are in Christ, but when they reject His Catholic Church, His Eucharist and His Truths they may be more with Satan.

Read Matthew 12:33-37 12:22-32


493 posted on 04/06/2021 7:13:01 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM
I will pray for your salvation. Peace be with you.

I will pray for YOUR salvation too, since I already have it. 👍

494 posted on 04/06/2021 7:32:54 PM PDT by Mark17 (US Air Force, retired. It was a long 20 years. )
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To: ADSUM

“ but when they reject His Catholic Church, His Eucharist and His Truths they may be more with Satan.”

FactCheck: FALSE


495 posted on 04/06/2021 7:52:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your statement: “FactCheck: FALSE”

Just another false FactCheck from Satan.


496 posted on 04/06/2021 7:59:22 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM

If your claim was true, it would be in scripture, but it is not.

So in fact-checking your claim, it can’t be other than false.


497 posted on 04/06/2021 8:35:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So, you don’t know or understand the Bible,

Read Luke 10:16 and John 12:48.

Show me where the protestant false promise of “Once saved, Always saved” is in the Bible.


498 posted on 04/06/2021 8:52:03 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: af_vet_1981

Please explain your comment: “Nor quite what the Apostle Peter wrote when he signified grace to be provided in the future (to be brought) “

Are you trying to say that this proves the protestant belief “Once saved, always saved” ?


499 posted on 04/06/2021 8:52:31 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: Cronos; Iscool; Elsie
He was using hyperbole (exaggeration to make a point)...Christ used hyperbole often, for example when he declared, "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell" (Matt. 5:29, cf. 18:9; Mark 9:47). Christ certainly did not intend this to be applied literally, for otherwise all Christians would be blind amputees! (cf. 1 John 1:8; 1 Tim. 1:15). We are all subject to "the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life" (1 John 2:16).

Funny how you can just pick and choose which things Jesus said that were "hyperbole" and which are supposed to be literal. When Jesus declared that "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life", He had ALREADY just got done feeding a vast multitude and tied it into how HE was the bread of life and "Whoever comes to Me will never hunger, and whoever believes in Me will never thirst." and "Truly, truly, I tell you, he who believes has eternal life.". Yet, you insist Jesus meant everyone must literally eat His human flesh and drink His blood to have eternal life! It's pretty obvious He was speaking figuratively.

500 posted on 04/06/2021 9:38:55 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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