Posted on 01/02/2021 6:05:47 PM PST by ebb tide
This Sunday, January 3, 2021, is the 500th anniversary of the excommunication of Martin Luther as a heretic and schismatic – the greatest damage ever done to the Holy Catholic Church. He died unrepentant, without the sacraments and outside the One True Church.
Yes, Pope Leo X, who issued the excommunication decree and the previous Exsurge Domine warning (6/15/1520) to Luther, had a mixed record of papal righteousness – but in this event he is nearly unsurpassed and fairly vindicated.
In this writer's view, these documents are two of the most formidable, necessary and courageous decrees emanating from the Chair of Peter, defending the Holy Roman Catholic Church from doctrinal attack. They were subsequently, fully upheld by the Council of Trent – also one of the greatest Councils in Church history – to which we owe very much, especially on the Eucharist!
We still face great danger. With Luther, there was no warning, just 95 absurd theses appearing out of thin air.
Here today, we had a warning in 1917 at Fatima. “Russia will spread her errors throughout the world,” did Our Lady alert the three children and us Catholics.
We feel these effects today – a far more serious warning than Luther. In full deference to Our Lady and the Most Holy Trinity – it is extremely doubtful (despite assertions to the contrary) that the full, correct Consecration to Russia was done; or that the decisive 3rd Secret text was totally revealed.
The errors, it is said, will lead to “The Great Apostasy.” There seems no appetite in the Vatican, at any level, to humbly accept and remedy those grave errors. Rather, a desire to hurtle into the future with Pachamama; Amazon Culture; ecology; and global secular solutions – as moral virtue is completely ignored and vocations and faithful Catholics disappear at record speeds.
Will the Church (and our Country) continue its decline? Will we still continue to receive God’s Divine Mercy and Graces? Are we due for a severe Divine Chastisement?
I am not going to advance an opinion here – only to charitably say, we would all do well to place our own souls in a state of grace, and urge our families, friends and others to do the same.
And Pray. God is very good.
Again, you cannot even show that protestant beliefs are based on God’s Truth in the Bible.
So your anti-Catholic bias makes a futile attempt to deny God’s Truth.
Do you even realize the seriousness of rejecting God’s Truth?
Philippians 2:12, for your edification.
work out your own salvation: i.e make continued efforts at living the gospel and pursuing your heavenly reward. This statement assumes that while our initial salvation had nothing to do with our works (eph 2:8-9), our final salvation depends on a lifetime of keeping the faith (2 Tim 4:7-8), following the commandments (Mt 19-17), persevering in good works (Rom 2:7), striving for holiness (Heb 12:14), praying in earnest (1 Tess 5:17), and fighting against the forces of evil (Eph 6:11), and the selfish demands of the flesh (Rom 8:13).
This obligation is so serious that we pursue it with fear and trembling i.e with a sense of awe at serving a living God and a sense of dread at the prospect of sinning against Him.
When Paul commands them to “work” , he addresses their free will. When he adds “with fear and trembling”. he cautions them against boasting as if their good deeds were their own as it is God that works them within you.
Ignatius Catholic Study Bible
Jesus told us to do good works. (Mt 5:16) John 14:12
Your comments: ““Paul is not here concerned with the eternal welfare of the soul of the individual. The individual believer is not now being called ‘to self-activity, to the active pursuit of the will of God . . . to a personal application of salvation’ (Müller). Rather the context suggests that this command is to be understood in a corporate sense. The entire church, which had grown spiritually ill (2:3–4), is charged now with taking whatever steps are necessary to restore itself to health and wholeness.”
This is pure false teaching and does not make sense or agree with the Scriptures. Your previous paragraphs quote the Scripture and contradict this statement, but you probably do not understand it, just accept the protestant viewpoint.
Believers accept the whole Bible, they do not pick and choose what parts or verses to believe.
Show me the words *Catholic*, *Pope*, *catechism*, and *sacraments* from Scripture.
Show me where Jesus left instructions for setting up the hierarchy of pope, cardinals, and priests from the NT and the form and rituals that Catholicism says are needed.
I’ll wait.
Thank you for posting, but you are wrong in this matter, as was Iggy.
“Show me where Jesus left instructions for setting up the hierarchy of pope, cardinals, and priests from the NT and the form and rituals that Catholicism says are needed.”
I’m reminded of the intercourse in “A Few Good Men:”
Lt. Kaffee : “Corporal, would you turn to the page in this book that says where the mess hall is, please?”
Cpl. Barnes : “Well, Lt. Kaffee, that’s not in the book, sir.”
Lt. Kaffee : “You mean to say in all your time at Gitmo, you’ve never had a meal?”
Cpl. Barnes : “No, sir. Three squares a day, sir.”
Lt. Kaffee : “I don’t understand. How did you know where the mess hall was if it’s not in this book?”
Cpl. Barnes : “Well, I guess I just followed the crowd at chow time, sir.”
Lt. Kaffee : “No more questions.”
We live in a world of chaos. On many occasions our success is based upon just pure luck. Not everything has to be written down to be understood or utilized. If your birth certificate is destroyed, do you not exist? Or did you ever exist...tomorrow?
I’ll wait.
You will be old and collecting social security by then. 😁
WILL be?
How about *am*, almost?
Still can’t answer questions on your protestant beliefs?
I see that your Catholic education failed you or, or are you just ignoring the historical facts and truth that doesn’t fit your man made protestant beliefs?
So you don’t believe in the Apostles Creed either?
The Sacraments were established by Jesus and they are in the Bible, if you look and are willing to find them.
Not all of God’s Truth is in the Bible, nor are the main false protestant teachings.
You can’t even prove that the Bible alone or faith alone was taught by Jesus. If you live with your false beliefs, you may die with them also.
I hope you find and accept God’s Truth.
Everything necessary for SALVATION and CHRISTIAN MATURITY in contained the the Holy Scriptures.
There is no sacramental system in Scripture, nor a system of works that imputes grace.
Totally made up with Roman cloth.
Oh please SuperCatholics.
The Medieval Papacy created the Reformation, not Luther or anyone else.
The sale of indulgences and gross corruption in the Roman Catholic Church was as culpable as the nutty Puritans and monster Henry VIII in wrecking the unity of Christianity.
You will find out when you die and I hope that you are able to accept the Sacrament of Reconciliation before you die for your sins.
It is prideful presumption that one is saved before their death and not according to what Jesus taught.
Peace.
But we can show it from church fathers.
But you've already ignored this.
“ You will find out when you die”
It has already been resolved. I know.
“and I hope that you are able to accept the Sacrament of Reconciliation”
No such thing in Scripture for the believer.
“It is prideful presumption that one is saved before their death and not according to what Jesus taught.”
It is actually the opposite. To think that you can earn your own salvation through your works or rituals or prayers or beads or idols, is prideful. Exactly what you were advocating. Religious pride and ritual.
It is the believer who comes in you all humility and repentance and excepts that only Jesus can pay the penalty for sins, that comes to know Christ and has salvation.
If you believe in the Bible alone as a key part of the protestant doctrine , and you can’t find that anywhere in the Bible.
I have not seen any authoritative source from protestants on scripture alone or faith alone.
See if you can answer this question. If the protestant revolution happened 1500 years after the death of Christ and the Apostles, and they consider the Bible inspired by God, how do they know which books to include as the inspired Bible as authorized by God? What authority has proclaimed these books inspired?
You claim to have studied the Scriptures in the seminary, however it is apparent that you do not understand what Jesus told us. You accept protestant teachings that you can not find in the Scriptures.
It is presumptive to declare before you die how Jesus will judge you.
“You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; ... yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.” Mt 5:39-40
“You claim to have studied the Scriptures in the seminary, however it is apparent that you do not understand what Jesus told us.”
I don’t claim anything. I did it - years in formal study of the Scriptures to move from opinion, to belief, to conviction. Decades afterwards.
A Roman priest may have told you the things you are pushing here, and you may really believe them, but I discount what you were told because my convictions come directly from the study of God’s revelation... not from a priest who had little education in every aspect of understanding God’s Word.
I leave out not a thing Jesus taught.
You can’t do that when you outline every book, every chapter, every verse.
Nor can you do so when you study systematic theology.
I just don’t believe it means what you were told by Rome.
Simple as that.
“You accept protestant teachings that you can not find in the Scriptures.”
Sorry again Adsum, but the day I entered seminary, I made a decision that I would come out believing only what I found in God’s Word.
Again, you likely can’t see anything but what you were told by a priest and are now Rome-blind.
So continue believing whatever you will, but I’m not buying it.
It is an easy decision to choose knowing God and His incredible promises to a life on the Hamster Wheel of Guilt and Ritual.
Best.
Comment: “Sorry again Adsum, but the day I entered seminary, I made a decision that I would come out believing only what I found in God’s Word.
I see no evidence that you know God’s Truth by your posts. You seem to believe protestant teachings. I don’t see any evidence that the protestant beliefs are supported by the Bible.
Your comment: “I leave out not a thing Jesus taught.”
Jesus did not teach “once saved, always saved” or “Bible alone” or “Faith alone”
I can see that your mind is made up by your personal interpretation of the Bible, so I will leave you alone. Read 2 Peter 1;20
Peace.
“ I see no evidence that you know God’s Truth by your posts”
And why would I be concerned about what you believe or do not believe??
You’ve stated you are not saved.
Ergo, you can not know the meaning of Scripture.
That leaves simply repeating what gay priests told you.
Not interested in that.
“ Jesus did not teach “once saved, always saved” or “Bible alone” or “Faith alone”
The Bible is more than the words of Christ, but is all equally inspired.
2 Peter 1:20
You just demonstrated exactlywhy a Roman is an unreliable source of scriptural truth.
Peter, my brother in the faith, doesn’t say a believer cannot interpret scripture. In fact the believer is supposed to be taught by the Holy Spirit and led into understanding truth. He is also commanded to love God with all his mind.
Peter, my brother, inspired by the Spirit, says all prophecy came from God, and was not the result of someone’s opinion.
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