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Joel Osteen’s Church Received $4.4 Million In Stimulus Payments: Churches don’t even pay taxes, which many people feel should disqualify them from the program
The Mind Unleashed ^ | 12/16/2020 | John Vibes

Posted on 12/16/2020 5:23:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind


Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church received a $4.4 million loan through the Paycheck Protection Program, as part of the federal CARES Act that was intended to be a stimulus to keep businesses and employees afloat while the pandemic kept everyone at home.

Churches were also eligible for the money, and some of the most prestigious churches in the country took advantage of the opportunity.

Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church was not on the initial list of recipients and claimed that they did not apply to receive any money. However, the church later applied and was granted $4.4 million, according to the Houston Chronicle.

Osteen himself is estimated to have a net worth of over $50 million, with his church taking in $43 million a year in collections.

Churches don’t even pay taxes, which many people feel should disqualify them from the program.

Meanwhile, many small business owners who attempted to get funding through the federal Paycheck Protection Program found that the money had dried up within a week of the program’s launch. It turned out that large publicly traded corporations were the first to gain access to the loans because they had teams of lawyers on standby who already had a working relationship with the government.

Large corporations like Shake Shack and Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse received millions in PPP loans, but were later forced to return the money after a massive public outcry was sparked by their applications.

It was also revealed that over 9,000 Catholic churches were approved for the loans. However, the Vatican, which is the global head of the Catholic Church, is one of the most wealthy organizations in the world. While their exact holdings have been called impossible to calculate, bankers estimate that the Vatican has been 10 and 15 billion dollars in cash, land, and investments alone.

Fraud was also rampant in the program. Tens of thousands of inmates in the state of California, even serial killers, and high profile murderers like Scott Peterson, were able to defraud the government of roughly a billion dollars through pandemic unemployment benefits. Prosecutors said that this was possibly the largest fraud scheme in California history.

Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said that between March and August, inmates across every California prison filed 35,000 claims totaling around $1 billion. $140 million in benefits had already been sent out.

Due to the rushed nature of the PPP program and the urgency of the pandemic, the government was sending out funds to pretty much anyone who applied, without checking IRS records first. However, the agency is starting to catch up with many of these scammers as they go back and evaluate which recipients qualify for the loan forgiveness. Numerous cases of PPP scammers have been reported across the country.



TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: joelosteen; lakewoodchurch; osteen; stimulus
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1 posted on 12/16/2020 5:23:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Employees pay income taxes.


2 posted on 12/16/2020 5:25:45 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is completely outrageous. These so-called preachers can fleece their own flux, not the taxpayers, to pay their bills.


3 posted on 12/16/2020 5:27:38 PM PST by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
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To: SeekAndFind

Scum.


4 posted on 12/16/2020 5:27:56 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: SeekAndFind

As a sincere Christian I agree that churches should not have been eligible for these loans.

We are not businesses.


5 posted on 12/16/2020 5:28:40 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen to )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m surprised Osteen’s cash cow is considered a church.


6 posted on 12/16/2020 5:32:53 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SeekAndFind
Churches don't even pay taxes, which many people feel should disqualify them from the program.

Umm.... why? It is a loan. Which means that they will pay it back.

My church has not applied for any money but we do run a food bank and other charities. We occasionally are offered grants and such to help with these endeavors.

Are we suppose to turn them down because we are a church rather then a 501-c3?

7 posted on 12/16/2020 5:35:27 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind

1 Timothy 6
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


8 posted on 12/16/2020 5:36:15 PM PST by Delta 21 (Get off your ass and earn it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s polticially connected. He got a sweetheart deal on the Summit (later named Compaq Center).

What kind of landlord (the city of Houston and corrupt land dealing mayors) gave exclusive sports and concert staging to some company that held those interests on the city owned Toyota Center? The tenants don’t get to dictate what you can or cannot do with your other properties.

Anus Pucker sold it off cheaply because she said it couldn’t be used for concerts or sports because of that clause.


9 posted on 12/16/2020 5:38:02 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

>>Umm.... why? It is a loan. Which means that they will pay it back.

Ummm, no

These “loans” were agreements not to fire people (keeping them gainfully employed) and if you met those conditions the loans would be forgiven.


10 posted on 12/16/2020 5:39:03 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: Persevero
As a sincere Christian I agree that churches should not have been eligible for these loans.

We are not businesses.

I disagree. Church staff are employees, just like employees in businesses.

Our little church lives on a shoestring, without many reserves of any kind. When giving drops off, people go without pay. This is exactly what the PPP was intended to protect against.

11 posted on 12/16/2020 5:45:25 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: SeekAndFind

And they said Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker were sleazy?


12 posted on 12/16/2020 5:46:34 PM PST by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: a fool in paradise
Ah, got it.
13 posted on 12/16/2020 5:52:01 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

In his defense,he hasn’t taken any salary since 2004 and the church employs about 350 people.

He’s just being loyal to them.


14 posted on 12/16/2020 5:52:24 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38 )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Maybe Joel Osteen could fork over some of his booty to help take care of the church. I do not believe Jesus intended for the leaders of the church to be RICH!

Osteen himself is estimated to have a net worth of over $50 million, with his church taking in $43 million a year in collections.


15 posted on 12/16/2020 6:00:11 PM PST by ozarkgirl ( )
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To: Larry Lucido

Half of the people who received checks didn’t pay any income taxes either.


16 posted on 12/16/2020 6:02:25 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Reno89519

PPP - Paycheck Protection Program.

Churches have payrolls.

Church employees pay taxes, have families and bills just like everyone else.


17 posted on 12/16/2020 6:06:28 PM PST by Trumplican
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how much Reverend AL’s flock received?


18 posted on 12/16/2020 6:15:15 PM PST by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: ozarkgirl
I do not believe Jesus intended for the leaders of the church to be RICH!

Why not? Rich is not evil.

The majority of his money comes from the books he writes which no one is forced to buy.

Just because he is a pastor is he not suppose to collect his royalties?

19 posted on 12/16/2020 6:16:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Clare, The awkward time is almost over. Love, Normal Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is a fraud. He is no good. Money grubbing dirt bag.


20 posted on 12/16/2020 6:21:05 PM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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