Charismatic leaders insist election not over, prophetic predictions that Trump would win were not wrong

Several charismatic Christian pastors and leaders who proclaimed that President Donald Trump would be reelected are maintaining that the election is not yet over and are holding fast to their predictions.

Though former Vice President Joe Biden has been declared the projected winner by many mass media outlets, and Biden and his running mate, U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, have also declared victory, a cadre of charismatic evangelical leaders who prophesied that Trump would serve two terms are standing by their words and that the 45th U.S. president will yet serve another four years in office.

"The rocks are about to move and Trump will be President no matter what you hear," said Kat Kerr, a self-described "revelator" in a recent livestream of The Elijah List, a hub where many charismatic voices publish prophetic words and spiritual insights.

"It will start with a phone call and I can tell you, you will be shocked to see how much exposure comes from that, but Trump will win. He will be president of the United States, he will sit in that office for four more years and God will have His way in this country."

Pastor Kent Christmas of Regeneration-Nashville — whose words at the Sept. 26 intercessory prayer event The Return in Washington, D.C., about a great revival coming to America went viral — said in a Saturday update on his YouTube channel that he knows many people are disheartened with the apparent election results but that he did not believe they were final despite some who are apologizing for proclaiming Trump would win.

"This is not political," Christmas said. "This is not about Donald Trump or Joe Biden or politics or Democrats or Republicans. This is a war between Heaven and Hell and it's about the destiny of this nation."

"One of the things that God is doing [is] He's knocking the silliness out of the Church. We have for so long had a haphazard and lackadaisical approach. And we've been so used to everything just working for us that we just assume that it's going to work."

Satan is not going to give up and permit the Church to assume its destiny, he continued.

"The Lion of Judah is going to roar again in this nation. This story, the ending has not yet been written. You cannot listen to what the Enemy is saying. You cannot allow the indicators that you're seeing in the natural begin to shape your faith."

Mike Thompson, who pastors Word of Life church in the Las Vegas area and who has also said Trump would be reelected, said both in a Saturday update and a Sunday sermon that the prophetic voices have not missed it and that the Lord impressed upon him that amid the ongoing election drama that he was to "give Moses a chance to work."

"I realize that right now there's going to be a lot of persecution coming against the prophets and those are in the prophetic and those who are followers of the prophets," he said.

He believes that the election will ultimately be decided in the courts, likely the United States Supreme Court.

"All of this is about revival. It is about the Lord Jesus Christ," not a political candidate, he said.

In a Nov. 4 email that was sent to his supporters and was forwarded to The Christian Post, Jeremiah Johnson of Jeremiah Johnson Ministries said he too did not believe that the election was complete and that Biden would soon preemptively declare himself the winner.

"Either a lying spirit has filled the mouths of numerous trusted prophetic voices in America or Donald J. Trump really has won the presidency and we are witnessing a diabolical and evil plan unfold to steal the election," Johnson wrote, adding he strongly believed it was the latter.

Johnson elaborated that he had a dream earlier this year that he believed was about the presidential race in which Trump was running the Boston marathon.

"And about 100 yards from the finish, he tripped and fell down and he could not get up, the crowd was spitting on him, they were jeering at him, and suddenly, two older women who I knew were baby boomers, somehow made their way through the crowd and supernaturally lifted Donald Trump up and helped him get to the finish. I believe God is calling on Baby Boomers in this nation to take your stand and believe with me that the best is yet to come."

Christian rap artist Marcus Rogers has also long maintained the Holy Spirit showed him that Trump would serve as president for another four years.

"Until EVERY prophetic word including the prophetic words from last year about the Elections going to the Supreme court fall, I am going to stand. If all of those words fall to the ground and Biden walks into that office in January. I will take a long break from Facebook to go hit the prayer closet, fast and ask God what went wrong with my vision AFTER I go live and admit to missing it. Until I see all of those words fall in front of my eyes I will stand on this even if I stand alone," he wrote Friday on his Facebook page.

He reiterated that he believes Trump will eventually win in light of what he believes God has prepared in advance.

"God had a ram in a bush before the sacrifice. Joseph in Egypt before the famine. Esther in the palace before the plot. A lamb slain before the foundations of the earth before the sin. An angel on the way to Daniel before he saw it manifest," he added in a subsequent post on Sunday.

"God told me this morning I already had things in position before there was a problem. God has already strategically placed people in certain positions. What God is about to do is so strategic that even atheist are going to doubt themselves and question what they believe."

Kris Vallotton, senior associate leader at Bethel Church, a charismatic megachurch in Redding, California, that is home to a School of Supernatural Ministry, is calling his prophesying that Trump would win reelection "a big mistake."

"I take full responsibility for being wrong. There is no excuse for it. I think it doesn't make me a false prophet but it does create a credibility gap...a lot of people trust me and trust my ministry. I want to say that I am very sorry for everyone who put their trust in me and that there was this major, major mistake."

I to believe President Trump will see another 4 years. What pains me is the amount of people accepting the fake news about a Trump defeat when Dec 14th is still far off. Cahn and Graham’s prayer march in DC drew 60-70,000 faithful, with our VP Pence and President Trump praying - never before in our history did so many gather in prayer with our two highest elected leaders praying.

I don't know what the outcome will be, but I have grown seriously concerned and disturbed by the number of people jumping on YouTube stating they had a dream. So many saying proclaiming “God told me/showed me...”.

It has become a real problem where it seems many are falsely or carelessly claiming God showed them this or that, much of which seems outlandish, meteors hitting the Atlantic, blood moons, events occurring on this Jewish date or Jewish feast, election outcomes.

STOP!

Fall on your knees and seek the face of God. He is sovereign and He can do whatever He chooses. I think it is a grave mistake to recklessly or imprudently stand on the street corner of YouTube and proclaim God has told you or showed you this or that. Is this blasphemous? I don't know, but I know Jesus said that a time would come when people will tell you, 'There he is!' or 'Here he is!' Do not go running off after them.

I think there is scripture that speaks of a drop off of prophetic visions but that wise men will have a good gut suspicion of what is coming but will hedge predictions based on the notion of “If the Lord so wills or mentioning having a strong sense of what “might” be happening” If I find it I will post it.

People can be led in a general direction by the Spirit but that doesn’t mean everything gets revealed to such people. We can see “trouble” coming and make plans to mitigate it as proverbs says...”The wise see evil coming and will hide themselves”(or close to the verse..I can find the reference if questioned).

One thing the prophets in the OT always did was to urge repentance and a return to God for any chance of the disasters they predicted to be commuted. Jonah was one such example. Just to say...”I predictTrump will be president” without some message urging the nation to return to grace would ring hollow to me. We have lots to repent of.

Trump and company have been doing lots of interesting things in the Middle East, things however that might prepare the ground for the final end game predicted in the Bible. Not that I think Trump is being nefarious...it is always right to pursue peace. Yet I think there are larger forces at work and the dominoes are falling.

We are left with this bit of observation by Jesus..”The son of man will not come until men shall say...”Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord”

So not knowing whether or not it is the right time to say it...I shall say it like the shout of a watchman on the walls:....BLESSED IS HE THAT COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!

i cannot end hope, for Donald Trump deserves another 4 years for the hell they laid in his path every day.

deceit and lies and as dirty play as ever been done to a person, was done to the President of the United States. that evil side cannot have this seat. it belongs to Gods man, President Trump.

Point taken. But. As John said ‘Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.’. Of course we should discern. But I have heard and read a few who ring true - who consistently aren’t glory seekers but are saying that God is in control. Here. Now.

So absolutely it’s ALWAYS sound and good and necessary for all believers to fall on their knees and seek God in their prayer closet. BUT - if and as you walk with the Lord for some time - you CAN see the Spiritual warfare going on. Satan wants to destroy all things God-rooted in this country. The Godly are repenting and seeking a revival. God wants to move. This is going to shake many in the Church and without. God will expose a lot of falseness and deceit.

One last thing - your last statement was about Jesus speaking about False Christs. That’s a different thing.
I do believe God is using an unclean vessel for His Glory to shake things out and is not done with him yet. With all of the attacks externally and in the ‘Church’, it is characteristic of God to move His Hand at His time when all seems lost and dire. It’s how He’s always worked.

Growing up in Pentecost I have seen a lot of Glory-seekers speaking ‘Thus Sayeth The Lord’. They didn’t have a certain thing I can only describe as the Signature of God. They didn’t ring true. Hard to explain - other than to say you feel an ‘unction’ inside.

PS - this post is not for the mockers - so just ignore.

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