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Vatican and Beijing Renew Secret Agreement
Catholic Culture ^ | 10/22/20

Posted on 10/26/2020 7:26:20 PM PDT by marshmallow

The Holy See and the Chinese government announced on October 22 that they have agreed to a two-year extension of their secret agreement governing the appointment of Catholic bishops.

A Vatican statement announcing the renewal said:

The Holy See considers the initial application of the Agreement—which is of great ecclesial and pastoral value—to have been positive, thanks to good communication and cooperation between the Parties on the matters agreed upon, and intends to pursue an open and constructive dialogue for the benefit of the life of the Catholic Church and the good of Chinese people.

In renewing the accord, the Vatican Secretariat of State brushed aside concerns expressed by some Chinese Catholics that the agreement enabled Chinese Communist leaders to strengthen their control over the Church. Cardinal Joseph Zen, the retired Bishop of Hong Kong, had been particularly outspoken in complaining that the Vatican was enhancing the power of state officials who were trampling on religious freedom.

The Vatican’s October 22 announcement emphasized that the agreement—the terms of which have not been made public—was not designed to address issues of religious-freedom. The main benefit of the agreement, the Vatican stated, was “restoring the full and visible unity of the Church” in China by providing for the appointment of bishops who would be recognized both by the Holy See and by the Beijing regime. In the past, the Chinese government has installed several bishops without Vatican approval; those bishops thereby incurred the automatic penalty of excommunication. Meanwhile Beijing has refused to recognize bishops of the “underground” Church that resisted government oversight.

”The question regarding the appointment of Bishops is of vital importance for the life of the Church, both at the local as well as at the universal levels,” the Vatican remarked in explaining the renewed agreement. The Vatican boasted;..............

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antipope; homosexualagenda; popefrancis; romancatholicism

1 posted on 10/26/2020 7:26:20 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

sigh...if it was even making the lives of the average Chinese Catholic a little better...but it’s not even doing that.

It’s a deal with the devil...though some might say that can be plural


2 posted on 10/26/2020 7:31:31 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: marshmallow

Evil always works in the dark and in secret.


3 posted on 10/26/2020 7:33:31 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: marshmallow

If it’s so secret then how come everybody knows about it and they announce it?


4 posted on 10/26/2020 7:38:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: marshmallow

Most Americans including this one were not aware that that the Italian socialist government had actually allowed the Chinese communists to purchase thus remove Italian ownership of a large segment of their fashion industry producers. Then replace the Italians working at those companies taken over by the Chinese and have them manned by thousands of Chinese nationals allowed to be brought in to work there.

When that CCWV breakout occured in Wuhan the politburo closedoff Wuhan but did not warn the Italian Socialist government or the Pope with whom the Chinese government had good relations with but certainly violated when the socialists should have been informed and allowed to deny those Chinese workers travel to and from China particularly for their New Year while this was occuring. Which Trump did with the exception of only allowing American citizens returning..


5 posted on 10/26/2020 7:41:10 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: nickcarraway
If it’s so secret then how come everybody knows about it and they announce it?

It's described as "secret" because nobody knows the details of what's in it. The Vatican wouldn't even show it to the Cardinal Emeritus of Hong Kong, Cardinal Joseph Zen.

6 posted on 10/26/2020 7:53:26 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

That’s certainly is strange. Isn’t the Catholic Church opposed to secret agreements?


7 posted on 10/26/2020 7:55:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: WKUHilltopper

Just like in 1929, when the Vatican made their deal with Mussolini.


8 posted on 10/26/2020 7:55:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marshmallow

I knew that the Whu Flu first broke out in Milan, a fashion garment area. Didn’t know a chunk of it was owned by China.

Hope we learn from our mistakes.


9 posted on 10/26/2020 8:04:31 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t the Catholic Church opposed to secret agreements?

I thought so, but the rules don't apply to Francis. Just like Democrats.

10 posted on 10/26/2020 8:04:44 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: ebb tide

ping


11 posted on 10/26/2020 8:09:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: lizma2
I knew that the Whu Flu first broke out in Milan, a fashion garment area. Didn’t know a chunk of it was owned by China. Hope we learn from our mistakes.

Partner, main reason why the Wu Han Virus hit Italy so hard at first.

The Chinese bought out the Professional Soccer team in Milan and somewhere else and the Chinese are the ones who brought the virus into Italy.

Italy did not know about the virus but so many Italians got hit hard.

President Trump did the right thing by stopping all Chinese from coming to the U.S.

12 posted on 10/26/2020 8:12:25 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business...)
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To: marshmallow

Kind of like hebephilia, a secret.


13 posted on 10/26/2020 8:13:23 PM PDT by pke
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To: marshmallow

Is the Vatican helping the Chinese to “rewrite” the Bible? I could believe it.


14 posted on 10/26/2020 8:17:24 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: TheConservativeTejano

I don’t think flights from China to the United States were actually ever stopped completely.


15 posted on 10/26/2020 8:24:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Partner, all I am saying is that the U.S. stopping flights from China were very effective in trying to control this virus and Italy made it worst on its people by not stopping some of the traffic from China.

16 posted on 10/26/2020 8:27:26 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business...)
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To: TheConservativeTejano
Italy Celebrated 'Hug a Chinese Day' on 1st February. Suffering with Corona deaths and tears now
17 posted on 10/26/2020 8:28:55 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

18 posted on 10/27/2020 12:47:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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