THE COMING CHASTISEMENT IS FOR SINNERS.
The Illumination might help all see their sins.
So.....
Piper prefers the pedophile???
And that’s preferable??
No sale.
Deadly behavior = First President in my memory to launch no new wars.
Scandalous
Remember that little thing about ‘bearing false witness’, Vicar?
I would agree that some of President Trump's actions are not in alignment with normal Christian behavior (he should pay more attention to Mike Pence) but has there ever been a President more aligned with the views of the Christian community? Dubya talked a good game but wasn't always there when we needed him. President Trump is willing to spend political capital on issues that matter to us.
I don't know if President Trump has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ or not but it is clear that President Trump has a worldview that aligns with the Christian worldview.
Good thing for Joe Biden that Miss Manners isn't running or he would lose John Piper's vote. While President Trump's behavior was boorish in the first debate, I might point out to Mr. Piper that Trump wasn't the one who yelled at his opponent to "shut up" or the one who called his opponent a "clown" twice.
Piper is of the devil. Throw him out.
Does Piper not understand that there are no "subjects" in the US, that the colonies split from Great Britain over this very issue, and that this election is about our not becoming slaves of a totalitarian state? Does he not understand that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people?
We, the people, are the "rulers." The President works for us. So, yes, to quote John Adams:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Today’s Pharisee.
Looks all religions and holy. But it’s fake. .
Talk about straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel.
I thought Piper knew his bible but he apparently forgot Romans 13 about how all powers are ordained by God. Maybe Piper forgot how the prophet Isaiah wrote about how a future pagan king would rescue the Hebrew people in captivity by Babylon and provide funding so they could rebuild their temple in Jerusalem. Isaiah gave the name of Medo-Persian king, Cyrus the Great, 200 years before the king was even born. Whether or not Donald Trump is a Christian or not is immaterial, God can use him for his purposes.
Not only that, John Piper is a hard core Calvinist who believes God micromanages his creation to the point he ordains the location of every particle of dust at any given time. Piper believes man does not have free will, if a man rapes a small child God ordained it to be. Piper believes God ordains such evil for his own glory, how so is a mystery however.
So if Piper claims that God can cause the rape of a small innocent child for his own glory, I can’t see why he’s complaining about Trump.
When is John Piper going to denounce King David and his writings ? He had a high level officer kill a fellow soldier so King David could sleep with the deceased man’s wife - even The Donald hasn’t done anything like that.
Okay, ‘Pastor’ Piper....so when President Harris (you KNOW it’s going to happen) finds a way to repeal or restrict the 1st Amendment and shuts down your church, then starts signing bills that refer to Christian beliefs as ‘hate crimes’ and start rounding up your congregation and YOU, what will you say then?
REPENT!
I just read John Piper’s view. He’s wrong. He is weighing one sinful behavior against another equally. This belief is something that is creeping into the church. (I just left a church for saying the same thing.) There are some sins that are far worst than others. The midwives of Egypt were blessed by God for lying to Pharaoh about not murdering the Hebrew boys.
Piper has placed himself as judge and he’s not. That in itself is sinful. Does that mean I should stop listening to him? I suppose it does if it continues given that he’s a teacher.
I suppose he mislead his congregation for over thirty years, also.
Not a Christian. You can support Trump and his Godly agenda, or you can support the party of Satan and Plugs/Whore.
but Minneapolis says it all.....
This asshole is a little late to the NeverTrump party. He should think before he speaks.
Without mentioning Trump by name, Piper said he is “baffled” over the fact that many Christians consider the sins of unrepentant sexual immorality, boastfulness, vulgarity, factiousness, and the like, to be “only toxic for our nation,” while policies that endorse “baby-killing, sex-switching, freedom-limiting, and socialistic overreach are viewed as deadly.”
Read the article, consider the headline which does not match with what is being said.
My take is that he is saying don’t look to Trump as your savior, he has faults.
I m ok with that................................
This preacher needs to stop by the office of his local exorcist.
John Piper is a sinner.
Since all men are sinners we should never vote for anyone, I guess. Just surrender the world to non-christians so we can feel “holier than thou.”