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Why the Reformation Still Matters
Ligonier ^ | 10/7/2020 | Michael Reeves

Posted on 10/08/2020 6:31:45 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Philsworld; Gamecock; Texas_Guy; HarleyD
phillie Did Cronos mention that if a person/family was caught with even a part of a bible they would be tortured and murdered? -- that's from the same work of fiction that told you that
61 posted on 10/11/2020 1:54:06 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

100s of millions were murdered in a continent of 70 million?


Over 1260 years Cronie, and not just in Europe.


62 posted on 10/11/2020 4:50:40 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

Then, 476 + 1260 = 1736. So you think the reformation stated in 1736?


No Cronie, 538-1798 = 1260 years. Your math is way off.


63 posted on 10/11/2020 4:53:42 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

4/5 of it’s priests are gay.


That’s not my number Cronie. A guy interviewed a whole bunch of homosexual priests and they spilled the beans on their buddies and what really goes down. 4/5 of the Vatican priests are gay. That’s what he said and I would guess that it’s representative of Catholic priests in general. You didn’t see that article about the gay orgies many of the priests have over Friday and Saturday nights and then they hold mass Sunday morning? It’s all true. Let me remind you that homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord. Your church Cronie, not mine.


64 posted on 10/11/2020 5:04:39 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
Your statistics are wrong, based on here-say by those with an agenda.

The actual sociological survey by Andrew Greeley showed 30 percent, and half of them kept their vow of celibacy.

True, the survey is 20 years old, but things improved since it was done, e.g. seminary reform and getting rid of some of tho worst priests and bishops who tolerated this.

65 posted on 10/11/2020 5:15:57 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Cronos

Just a fraction of the people murdered by the Catholic Church. This guy has the research.

150-300 million over 1260 years, Cronie.

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810592

Chapter 5. Alethia’s estimate

What is the basis for such a large overall estimate, whether it be 50 million, 68 million or 100 million killed? Dowling does not say where he obtained his figure. Brownlee, at least, breaks the figure into categories, but does not say where the estimate of 50 million comes from. Another source also gives some information about this topic, namely, M. D. Aletheia, The Rationalist’s Manual (1897):

Let us look for a moment at the number of victims sacrificed on the altars of the Christian Moloch: — 1,000,000 perished during the early Arian schism; 1,000,000 during the Carthaginian struggle; 7,000,000 during the Saracen slaughters. In Spain 5,000,000 perished during the eight Crusades; 2,000,000 of Saxons and Scandinavians lost their lives in opposing the introduction of the blessings of Christianity. 1,000,000 were destroyed in the Holy(?) Wars against the Netherlands, Albigenses, Waldenses, and Huguenots. 30,000,000 Mexicans and Peruvians were slaughtered ere they could be convinced of the beauties(?) of the Christian creed. 9,000,000 were burned for witchcraft. Total, 56,000,000.


66 posted on 10/11/2020 5:20:06 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos; Texas_Guy

It’s all documented Cronie. All that murder. 150-300 million and no problem at that. Could even be higher and it wouldn’t surprise me.

“Extra, extra, read all about it! Read how many people were slaughtered by the Catholic Church!”

Evidently there was a lot of nun raping and murdering of their children to hide their crimes too. (Cloistered Convents)

Go ahead and read it folks. It’s sobering to say the least.

150-300 million men, women, and children murdered by the Catholic Church. It is well documented. Come on Cronie, just try to deny it after reading the evidence.

Cronie: Um, um, um, ohhhh, ahhhh, blabber, Phil believes in the Archangel Michael as Jesus, EGW, cultist, slobber, spittle.....

Just tell the truth Cronie. Admit it. Your church murdered hundreds of millions of people.

It is a matter of documented history. It can’t be explained away by Jesuit lies.

The full article below.

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html

Estimates of the Number Killed by the Papacy in the Middle Ages and later *

Chapter 0. Introduction *

Chapter 1. Examples of figures concerning the number killed *

Chapter 2. The plausibility of massive persecution *

CHAPTER 3. The 50 Million Figure *

Chapter 4. The Spanish Inquisition *

Chapter 5. Alethia’s estimate *

Chapter 6. An estimate based on population growth *

Chapter 7. Indirect evidence of persecution *

Chapter 8. Cloistered convents *

Chapter 9. Wars *

Chapter 10. Conclusion *

REFERENCES *

INDEX *


67 posted on 10/11/2020 5:47:15 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: LadyDoc; Cronos

Again, they are not my numbers.


68 posted on 10/11/2020 5:49:39 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

The Study that Cronos does not want anyone to see, which proves that 150-300 million people were murdered by the Catholic Church. Let’s all see if Cronos wants to have a serious discussion about it.

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html


69 posted on 10/11/2020 5:55:00 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Firstly you posted 476 as the starting date

Secondly, after the Napoleonic wars, the Papal continued until 1870.

Either way your 1260 is days not years.

Read the Bible not the teachings of your Adventist prophets Ellen.


70 posted on 10/11/2020 7:07:57 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

No Cronos, you have it wrong.

The 1260 years starts in 538 with Justinian declaring the pope/Catholic Church:

• Head of all churches.
• Definer of all doctrine.
• Corrector of all heretics

A POWER WHICH RECEIVES A DEADLY WOUND. Revelation 13:3.
“In 1798 he (Bertheir) … made his entrance into Rome. ABOLISHED THE PAPAL GOVERNMENT and established a
secular one.” The Encyclopedia Americana. 1941 edtion.
DEADLY WOUND was inflicted in 1798 Exactly 1260 years from 538 A.D.

538-1798=1260 years.


71 posted on 10/12/2020 4:58:40 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

538-1798=1260 years of RTM (Rape, Torture, Murder...you can throw in an H for Homosexuality of you want)

That’s your church, Cronie.


72 posted on 10/12/2020 5:12:11 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

Of course, the Heruli and the Ostrogoths also undoubtedly numbered in the millions, and were exterminated. Everywhere one looks there is evidence of millions and millions of people who were killed by the Papacy in various stages of its history. The Hussites were also nearly exterminated:

RTM

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589

How many murdered by the Catholic Church Cronos??? 3,000 you say???


73 posted on 10/12/2020 5:25:27 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos; Texas_Guy

In Bohemia, by 1600, in a population of 4,000,000, 80 per cent were Protestant. When the Hapsburgs and Jesuits had done their work, 800,000 were left, all Catholics.

In Austria and Hungary half the population Protestant, but under the Hapsburgs and Jesuits they were slaughtered.

In Poland, by the end of the 16th century, it seemed as if Romanism was about to be entirely swept away, but here too, the Jesuits, by persecution, killed Reform.

In Italy, the Pope’s own country, the Reformation was getting a real hold; but the Inquisition got busy, and hardly a trace of Protestantism was left.

RTM

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589

Revelation 13:

4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


74 posted on 10/12/2020 5:38:05 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos

Furthermore,

Bohemia had its population reduced from three million to seven hundred and eighty thousand, and there were parts of the continent where unburied corpses lay so thick that the regions had to be avoided until nature had done its work with the putrefying bodies of the dead.

Joseph McCabe, The Story of Religious Controversy, Chapter XXIX The Jesuits: Religious Rogues, 1929.

RTM

Cronos: “Nah, it was 3,000 at the most and probably only 1 (Jan Hus)”

Phil: “Ahahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahaha!”

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589


75 posted on 10/12/2020 5:45:41 PM PDT by Philsworld
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Know that the interests of the Holy See, and those of your crown, make it a duty to exterminate the Hussites. Remember that these impious persons dare proclaim principles of equality; they maintain that all Christians are brethren and that God has not given to privileged men the right of ruling the nations; they hold that Christ came on Earth to abolish slavery; they call the people to liberty, that is to the annihilation of kings and priests. While there is still time, then, turn your forces against Bohemia; burn, massacre, make deserts everywhere, for nothing could be more agreeable to God, or more useful to the cause of kings, than the extermination of the Hussites.”

RTM

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589


76 posted on 10/12/2020 6:01:38 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Cronos
Wholesale RAPE, TORTURE, AND MURDER OF PROTESTANTS.

RTM

77 posted on 10/12/2020 6:05:18 PM PDT by Philsworld
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How about your sacred Poland, Cronie?

” Concerning Poland, “In lower Poland … In the year 1654 the papists put to death all the Protestants they could find by most exquisite tortures” [R.B, op. cit., p. 42]. Also,

[Speaking of Poland in 1655] “The Romish clergy having thus awakened the suspicions, and appealed to the passions of the people, the latter took it for granted that the protestants were guilty, and began a most furious persecution. Every city, town, and village, presented scenes of horror and cruelty; no inhumanity was left unthought of, no barbarity unpracticed. Age, sex, or rank, made no distinction; all protestants fell alike the undistinguished victims of bigoted rage.” [Here some specifics of the persecutions are given.] [Southwell, op. cit., p. 226]

[Speaking of the Polish nobility with their papist army in 1655] “In what manner they would have used the refugee citizens who fled [from Lesna], but more especially the pastors, they showed by their heroic conduct to those remaining; and in other places, by the most savage slaughtering of divers ministers of the church, and other faithful members of Christ of both sexes; for of all that they laid hold on, they gave no quarter, but cruelly put every one to death with most exquisite tortures….” [Southwell, op. cit., p. 236]

RTM

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589


78 posted on 10/12/2020 6:09:10 PM PDT by Philsworld
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But the country in which the Inquisition has reached its most flourishing estate is Spain. This tribunal was first introduced into Catalonia in 1232, and propagated over all Spain. It was re-established in greater pomp and terror in 1481 by Ferdinand and Isabella, chiefly for the spiritual good of the Jews, then numerous in Spain. The bull of Sixtus V. instituted a grand inquisitor-general and supreme council to preside over the working of the Holy Office; and under that bull commenced that system of juridical extermination which is said to have cost Spain upwards of five millions of her citizens, who either perished miserably in the dungeon, or expired amid the flames of the public auto da fe.

Rev. J.A. Wylie, LL.D, Genius and Influence of the Papacy, Book III - Chapter III.

RTM

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Number-of-Protestants-Killed-By-Popes.html#_Toc135810589

Cronie: “Uh, Nah, that guy was discredited. All lies. Nothing to see here folks. Let’s move along” “The correct number is at the most 3,000, but probably only 1 (Jan Hus). Um, Nero was the Antichrist or Ellen White of the SDA’s.” “Phil believes that the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ” “Don’t look at the Catholic Church and all their murder. Nope, it’s all SDA lies”

Phil: “AhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahaBawawawawaw, Snort”


79 posted on 10/12/2020 6:17:16 PM PDT by Philsworld
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The Horrors of the Inquisition, ordered and maintained by the Popes, over a period of 500 years, in which unnumbered millions were Tortured and Burned, constitute the MOST BRUTAL, BEASTLY, and DEVILISH PICTURE in all history. [p. 732]

RTM

That's your church, Cronie.

80 posted on 10/12/2020 6:21:58 PM PDT by Philsworld
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