Did they find evidence of all kinds of crucifixions that had occurred there?

961 posted on 08/04/2020 7:11:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I’m going to take an educated guess...

I'll give you the guess part; but you'll have to show the educated part.

962 posted on 08/04/2020 7:12:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I didn't say the heavenly Ark of the Covenant was for the Jews only. I said the man made Ark of the Covenant was for the Jews.

That makes more sense but I don't necessarily agree with it. In one sense I do but overall, the Ark was gift for all mankind. The Israelites were a Chosen People with a purpose to evangelize the world. The ordinances and handwritings and ceremonies were to keep them focused on Gods purpose for them and prepare them for coming Messiah, and they in turn were to prepare the world.
What a disappointment in Heaven it must have been to see our Lord being born in a manger whose only notice was made by Magi outside of the country. It seems every effort God makes to engage the people here has been attacked by Satan. I've strayed from the AOTC topic but maybe we are better off with its location unknown. Every government on earth would try to use this gift as a weapon.
The contents of the AOTC undoubtedly have symbolic meanings but I am sure the contents of both Arks are the same. The manna a type of Gods bounty and the staff of priesthood relevance. But the Ten Commandments are not a type for anything. They stand alone. They are the linchpin for the integrity of Heavens purity. Gods Love is wrote in every command. The fourth commandment designates WHY we worship God. He is our Creator and He is worthy of worship. The Ten Commandments will be studied throughout eternity for layers of meaning and application.

963 posted on 08/04/2020 7:42:07 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)

Someone’s going to have to show me just where in the NT that Gentiles are included in the COVENANT.

Sorry I must've skipped over this one. Here Paul is talking about the Old Covenant and Gentiles were excluded from THAT one. It was the ceremonies, handwashings, etc. . . These were designed to focus on the coming Messiah and to purify the nation and keep their national identity and be separate from the other nations. It has expired.
No, you want the NEW Covenant where it is written in your heart.

964 posted on 08/04/2020 8:04:15 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)

Not at all. God knew that evil men who were anti-mormon-cultists, such as yourself, would twist the meaning and wording of the 116 pages to attempt to prove that Joseph was a false prophet.

Since seeing your ability at twisting Joseph Smiths words and meanings, I have gained a testimony that God knew what he was doing by sabotaging anti-mormon-cultist attempts!

965 posted on 08/04/2020 9:39:49 PM PDT by teppe

Did they find evidence of all kinds of crucifixions that had occurred there?

Not just crucifixions but stonings too. Piles of rocks the size of baseballs and many finger bone fragments. It’s probably where Stephen was stoned.

966 posted on 08/05/2020 2:05:51 AM PDT by Philsworld

I’ll give you the guess part; but you’ll have to show the educated part.

Where was the darkness?

Where was the veil that was torn with unseen hands, from top to bottom?

Where were the graves that were opened and were did those resurrected saints go after that?

Matthew 27:
50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

Elsie, please pay special attention to verse 54:

967 posted on 08/05/2020 3:30:49 AM PDT by Philsworld

... and wording of the 116 pages to attempt to prove that Joseph was a false prophet.

Good try; but not very good logic.

A 'true' prophet would have translated the SECOND 116 pages EXACTLY the same as the first; so where is any 'twisting' involved?

968 posted on 08/05/2020 5:08:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Since seeing your ability at twisting Joseph Smiths words and meanings...

Like when I post stuff like the following?

Let's compare GENESIS

King James Version

Genesis 50:24–26

²⁴And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

²⁵And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.

²⁶So Joseph died, being an hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.

Joseph Smith Translation

Genesis 50:24–38

24 And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die, and go unto my fathers; and I go down to my grave with joy. The God of my father Jacob be with you, to deliver you out of affliction in the days of your bondage; for the Lord hath visited me, and I have obtained a promise of the Lord, that out of the fruit of my loins, the Lord God will raise up a righteous branch out of my loins; and unto thee, whom my father Jacob hath named Israel, a prophet; (not the Messiah who is called Shilo;) and this prophet shall deliver my people out of Egypt in the days of thy bondage.

25 And it shall come to pass that they shall be scattered again; and a branch shall be broken off, and shall be carried into a far country; nevertheless they shall be remembered in the covenants of the Lord, when the Messiah cometh; for he shall be made manifest unto them in the latter days, in the Spirit of power; and shall bring them out of darkness into light; out of hidden darkness, and out of captivity unto freedom.

26 A seer shall the Lord my God raise up, who shall be a choice seer unto the fruit of my loins.

27 Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

28 And he shall bring them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers; and he shall do whatsoever work I shall command him.

29 And I will make him great in mine eyes, for he shall do my work; and he shall be great like unto him whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel, out of the land of Egypt; for a seer will I raise up to deliver my people out of the land of Egypt; and he shall be called Moses. And by this name he shall know that he is of thy house; for he shall be nursed by the king’s daughter, and shall be called her son.

30 And again, a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins; and not to the bringing forth of my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them in the last days;

31 Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together unto the confounding of false doctrines, and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to a knowledge of their fathers in the latter days; and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord.

32 And out of weakness shall he be made strong, in that day when my work shall go forth among all my people, which shall restore them, who are of the house of Israel, in the last days.

33 And that seer will I bless, and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise I give unto you; for I will remember you from generation to generation; and his name shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father; and he shall be like unto you; for the thing which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand shall bring my people unto salvation.

34 And the Lord sware unto Joseph that he would preserve his seed forever, saying, I will raise up Moses, and a rod shall be in his hand, and he shall gather together my people, and he shall lead them as a flock, and he shall smite the waters of the Red Sea with his rod.

35 And he shall have judgment, and shall write the word of the Lord. And he shall not speak many words, for I will write unto him my law by the finger of mine own hand. And I will make a spokesman for him, and his name shall be called Aaron.

36 And it shall be done unto thee in the last days also, even as I have sworn. Therefore, Joseph said unto his brethren, God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land, unto the land which he sware unto Abraham, and unto Isaac, and to Jacob.

37 And Joseph confirmed many other things unto his brethren, and took an oath of the children of Israel, saying unto them, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.

38 So Joseph died when he was an hundred and ten years old; and they embalmed him, and they put him in a coffin in Egypt; and he was kept from burial by the children of Israel, that he might be carried up and laid in the sepulchre with his father. And thus they remembered the oath which they sware unto him.

I guess the JEWS never noticed that Moses FAILED to include the ITALICIZED words that Joseph added to Genesis.

969 posted on 08/05/2020 5:13:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Where, where, where?

See those UNANSWERED questions??

Now draw a picture of them.

970 posted on 08/05/2020 5:15:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I merely paid attention to the drawing.

A lot of assumptions were made kin it’s creation.

971 posted on 08/05/2020 5:15:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

BEWARE!!

Twisting alert!!

But NOT by ELSIE!!!

What's for dinner?

D&C 49:18-19

18 And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not ordained of God;
19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in abundance.

D&C 89:12-13

12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

It must be tough; being a Mormon. Having to face Scripture that state two oppossing ideas and somehow managing to believe BOTH of them! It's no WONDER that Utah leads in Prozac usage!

972 posted on 08/05/2020 5:33:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Where, where, where?

Where Jesus was crucified, that’s where, where, where.

54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

973 posted on 08/05/2020 5:36:04 AM PDT by Philsworld

Any tombs under Golgotha?

(I feel like Hobbs, being shown a Calvinosaurus)

974 posted on 08/05/2020 5:49:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Any tombs under Golgotha?

Under? I doubt it. Around Golgotha? Plenty.

That whole area was where they quarried rock for the building of Jerusalem. Plenty of caves, especially the one that Jeremiah used to put the Ark of the Covenant into.

975 posted on 08/05/2020 5:53:23 AM PDT by Philsworld

Why would a tomb be under Golgotha? Makes no sense.

976 posted on 08/05/2020 5:58:52 AM PDT by Philsworld

Why would a tomb be under Golgotha?
Makes no sense.

Yeah; why indeed?

That's kinda what I've been trying to get across.

977 posted on 08/05/2020 6:19:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

978 posted on 08/05/2020 6:20:51 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)

especially the one that Jeremiah used to put the Ark of the Covenant into.

Oh?

979 posted on 08/05/2020 7:08:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Tomb under Golgotha?

Oh?

Makes no sense.

AOTC under Golgotha and the final blood sacrifice that will ever touch it’s mercy seat would be that of the Law Giver, Jesus Christ. Makes perfect sense. Remember the name of Ron Wyatt because you are going to see it again very soon I believe.

Where did Jeremiah put that ark? Oh? Sense? Snap.

980 posted on 08/05/2020 7:21:07 PM PDT by Philsworld

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