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Salvation is a free gift of God! You can have confidence you are saved.
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Posted on 07/24/2020 7:55:20 AM PDT by Teleios Research

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To: Elsie

I suppose it depends what version you are reading from:

New Living Translation
Moses remained there on the mountain with the LORD forty days and forty nights. In all that time he ate no bread and drank no water. And the LORD wrote the terms of the covenant—the Ten Commandments—on the stone tablets.


921 posted on 08/03/2020 1:20:59 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Elsie

He maybe a non practicing Catholic, but with the Sacraments and repentance can always seek forgiveness and return.


922 posted on 08/03/2020 1:44:50 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Elsie

Then stop sinning, too many have not paid attention.


923 posted on 08/03/2020 1:50:05 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Philsworld; Iscool
I'm not your dancing monkey, Phil. You already know the answer to your "poser". The Ark of the Covenant and its Mercy Seat created on earth was a symbol of what was in Heaven. Hebrews chapter 9 tells us all about it:

    Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. A tabernacle was prepared. In its first room were the lampstand, the table, and the consecrated bread. This was called the Holy Place. Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place, containing the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. Above the ark were the cherubim of glory, overshadowing the mercy seat. But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.

    When everything had been prepared in this way, the priests entered regularly into the first room to perform their sacred duties. But only the high priest entered the second room, and then only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance.
    By this arrangement the Holy Spirit was showing that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still standing. It is an illustration for the present time, because the gifts and sacrifices being offered were unable to cleanse the conscience of the worshiper. They consist only in food and drink and special washings—external regulations imposed until the time of reform.

    But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come, He went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made by hands and is not a part of this creation. He did not enter by the blood of goats and calves, but He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, thus securing eternal redemption.

    For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that their bodies are clean, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, purify our consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!

    Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

    In the case of a will, it is necessary to establish the death of the one who made it, because a will does not take effect until the one who made it has died; it cannot be executed while he is still alive.

    That is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. For when Moses had proclaimed every commandment of the law to all the people, he took the blood of calves and goats, along with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled the scroll and all the people, saying, “This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep.”

    In the same way, he sprinkled with blood the tabernacle and all the vessels used in worship. According to the law, in fact, nearly everything must be purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

    So it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ did not enter a man-made copy of the true sanctuary, but He entered heaven itself, now to appear on our behalf in the presence of God.

    Nor did He enter heaven to offer Himself again and again, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise, Christ would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But now He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

    Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, so also Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him.

924 posted on 08/03/2020 4:41:31 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; Iscool

925 posted on 08/03/2020 5:57:37 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: boatbums
Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.

So the TEN Commandments (written on stone) are in an ark in Heaven is what you're telling us?

926 posted on 08/03/2020 7:47:45 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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To: BipolarBob
>>Inside the ark were the gold jar of manna, Aaron’s staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.<<

So the TEN Commandments (written on stone) are in an ark in Heaven is what you're telling us?

No, that's not what I'm telling you. Like I said:

    The Ark of the Covenant and its Mercy Seat created on earth was a symbol of what was in Heaven. Hebrews chapter 9 tells us all about it

The REAL Mercy Seat is in heaven. The physical items contained within the Ark of the Covenant were meant for the Jews. I have no idea where they are now. Perhaps they will show up soon and will find their place within a newly built temple in Jerusalem. It all didn't magically fly up to heaven when Jesus ascended.

927 posted on 08/03/2020 9:46:25 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Elsie

Baptism seals the person’s soul with a permanent spiritual mark or character identifying one as belonging to Christ.


928 posted on 08/03/2020 11:08:26 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Elsie
And for those who paid little attention in catechism classes, we have...

Did you call my name bro? 😁 That would be me. I not only paid little attention in catechism class. I paid NO attention in catechism class. All I wanted to do, was flirt with the girls and go play hockey 🏒 Those were my priorities in life, flirting and playing hockey. 😁 When it came time to leave the Catholic Church, it was not difficult for me to do that, since I didn’t feel close to the church anyway. I am comfortable with that choice. 👍 I feel like a heretic. 😁🤗👍🤣😀🤪😄🤑 but I am ok with that. 👍

929 posted on 08/03/2020 11:47:47 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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To: Elsie
Sorry bro, I forgot to ask, how is your Army grandson doing? My Air Force officer son, is still flying USAF aircraft. 👍😁
930 posted on 08/04/2020 12:36:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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To: Philsworld
I suppose it depends what version you are reading from: New Living Translation

Yes; I guess it does.


New International Version
Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant--the Ten Commandments.

New Living Translation
Moses remained there on the mountain with the LORD forty days and forty nights. In all that time he ate no bread and drank no water. And the LORD wrote the terms of the covenant—the Ten Commandments—on the stone tablets.

English Standard Version
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Berean Study Bible
So Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

New American Standard Bible
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

New King James Version
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

King James Bible
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Christian Standard Bible
Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat food or drink water. He wrote the Ten Commandments, the words of the covenant, on the tablets.

Contemporary English Version
Moses stayed on the mountain with the LORD for 40 days and nights, without eating or drinking. And he wrote down the Ten Commandments, the most important part of God's agreement with his people.

Good News Translation
Moses stayed there with the LORD forty days and nights, eating and drinking nothing. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant--the Ten Commandments.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Moses was there with the LORD 40 days and 40 nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. He wrote the Ten Commandments, the words of the covenant, on the tablets.

International Standard Version
While Moses was there with the LORD for 40 days and 40 nights, he did not eat or drink. He wrote the Ten Commandments, the words of the covenant, on the tablets.

NET Bible
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread, and he did not drink water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

New Heart English Bible
He was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread, nor drank water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Moses was there with the LORD 40 days and 40 nights without food or water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the promise, the ten commandments.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten words.

New American Standard 1977
So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

King James 2000 Bible
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

American King James Version
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote on the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

American Standard Version
And he was there with Jehovah forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And Moses was there before the Lord forty days, and forty nights; he did not eat bread, and he did not drink water; and he wrote upon the tables these words of the covenant, the ten sayings.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights: he neither ate bread nor drank water, and he wrote upon the tables the ten words of the covenant.

Darby Bible Translation
-- And he was there with Jehovah forty days and forty nights; he ate no bread, and drank no water. -- And he wrote on the tables the words of the covenant, the ten words.

English Revised Version
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Webster's Bible Translation
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water: and he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

World English Bible
He was there with Yahweh forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread, nor drank water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Young's Literal Translation
And he is there with Jehovah forty days and forty nights; bread he hath not eaten, and water he hath not drunk; and he writeth on the tables the matters of the covenant -- the ten matters.

931 posted on 08/04/2020 5:18:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Philsworld

Neat picture; but it doesn’t seem to conform to the biblical description.


932 posted on 08/04/2020 5:20:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
Baptism seals the person’s soul with a permanent spiritual mark or character identifying one as belonging to Christ.

So; you're a OSAS Catholic; right?

933 posted on 08/04/2020 5:22:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

He’s now at Ft. Riley, complaining about the heat and shootin’ them big guns on the tanks.


934 posted on 08/04/2020 5:24:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

No, I do not follow false protestant beliefs.


935 posted on 08/04/2020 5:55:19 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Elsie

Neat picture; but it doesn’t seem to conform to the biblical description.


Why?


936 posted on 08/04/2020 6:26:58 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: ADSUM
Baptism seals the person’s soul with a permanent spiritual mark or character identifying one as belonging to Christ.

Naw, you're making that up...Water baptism is a 'heart' decision made by the baptized and doesn't do anything spiritually more than get you wet...

But aside from all your Church's anti-biblical dogmas and doctrines, we know from reading the bible that even water baptism is something reserved for a person who has professed a belief in Jesus Christ...

Most all Catholics get water dripped on them before their eyes are even opened which makes the baptism completely meaningless... And then your religion restricts a 'baby baptized' Catholic from getting re-baptized when that person gets to an age where he/she can intelligently believe in Jesus...

So, most all Catholics have never willfully been officially (water) baptized in accordance with the scriptures, likely including even you...Weird thing you guys got going on there...

937 posted on 08/04/2020 6:47:48 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: boatbums
Heb. 9:24 For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered Heaven itself,

This states there is a REAL ark with REAL manna, budded staff and stone tablets in Heaven. The one on earth was a copy of the real one in Heaven.

The REAL Mercy Seat is in heaven. The physical items contained within the Ark of the Covenant were meant for the Jews.

Then maybe the Mercy Seat is just meant for Jews according to that cherry picking thinking. You can't just pick and choose to suit your denominations beliefs. WHY wouldn't there be The perfect Law of God in Heaven? After all that is what tells us what sin is. God would not hide that information, would He?

938 posted on 08/04/2020 7:10:39 AM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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To: Elsie
He’s now at Ft. Riley, complaining about the heat and shootin’ them big guns on the tanks.

My dad was stationed at Fort Riley, during the big one of 1941 to 1945. My son is training at Alamogordo, NM. It’s hot there too.

939 posted on 08/04/2020 7:49:00 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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To: ADSUM; Iscool; MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; smvoice; Elsie
No, I do not follow false protestant beliefs.

I surely do bro. Do you live in a constant state of fear? Thinking that deep inside, you might fear, that after leading a life, striving against sin, and trying to lead a good life, hoping you were good enough to attain Heaven, and still end up in the lake of fire? Does this bother you? It would bother me, so I choose to believe OSAS. I have assurance of salvation. If you don’t, then that’s on you, but I will always be into OSAS. I sure beats walking around, being scared of hell fire and brimstone. 🔥

940 posted on 08/04/2020 8:03:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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