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Salvation is a free gift of God! You can have confidence you are saved.
Teleios ^ | Teleios

Posted on 07/24/2020 7:55:20 AM PDT by Teleios Research

Be convinced with these 4 biblical truths: 1. Each of us has sinned; 2. God is just, requiring a punishment for sin; 3. But out of love God sent His Son, Jesus Christ who by dying on the cross, provided forgiveness of sins in taking man’s deserved punishment; 4. Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins and belief in His resurrection, man can gain eternal life. (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 3:21-26) Read more at https://teleiosresearch.com/salvation-explanation/.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: bible; bot; christianity; cults; ellengwhite; falsedoctrine; gospel; salvation; sda; seventhdayadvents; tencommandments
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Jesus gave us the gift of His Body and Blood.

Another failure of understanding of God’s Truth in protestant doctrine. He is the bread of life. His Body and blood is food and drink.

The Our Father is a prayer to connect with God.

Your unbelief may contribute to the lack of connection.

If I am naughty in your opinion in explaining God’s Truth, at least I am not sinful.


161 posted on 07/26/2020 6:48:34 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

You “explained” by adding to God’s Word.

HE never said that in the prayer.

You said it.

Simple enough to check the Greek text and see you added it.


162 posted on 07/26/2020 6:56:56 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM

You asserted, “We believe in Jesus and the Catholic Church He founded.” And that will insure your ticket to hell. Sadly, you will be leading more than yourself by the lies you spew for abd of your ‘church’. Jesus went to that cruel cross to pay the penalty for sin, your sin, my sin. He rose again to seal the deal. He did not die for your soul, He died to bring SPIRIT LIFE to your spirit. Your ORG is a dead soul pretend of Christianity, supporting an army of pedopjiles and homosexual priests, headed by a communist servant of satan. There is nothing of spiritual life in your religion, but it is spiritual just as satan is an evil spirit of lies a murderer fromt he start.


163 posted on 07/26/2020 7:08:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM
You asserted, "Jesus provided His Body and Blood in the Eucharist at the Last Supper and through His Catholic Church." And you cannot even discern the blasphemies flaming forth from that multiple lies sentence.

With your carnal mind you see wine and bread as flesh and blood, as if Jesus Who never sinned, would cause His disciples to sin by defying the command from God to the JEWS to never eat the blood. The carnality is so blatant you are blind to it. You are serving the god of carnality.

It will never occur to your carnal mind that the Remembrance ritual was instituted BEFORE the sacrifice for sin, and the Lord commanded that we remember what He was about to do for us by sharing the breaking of bread and the cup of wine in Remembrance of HIM UNTIL HE COMES for us. Jesus even told you dead soul Catholics that He would not drink the fruit of the vine again until He did it with US in the kingdom. But your carnal religion cannot do but what the god of this carnal world commands you to do, pretend to cannibalize the Lord Christ. The Lord Rebuke you and spirit that is within you.

164 posted on 07/26/2020 7:17:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Excellent and precise summary! All three are cults.


165 posted on 07/26/2020 7:18:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So you are literal now: “Simple enough to check the Greek text and see you added it.” But you deny Christ’s emphatic words in John 6:53-58

I didn’t add it.

It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church. CCC2861

The Lord Jesus promised to be with us every day. Jesus is present to us in the Divine Sacrament, because Jesus is the Bread of Life.

While I do not know you, you appear resistant to God’s Word and follow false teachers and reject God’s Word.

If there is an incorrect conscience, that means that the conscience is erroneous in its view of truth. We all have a great responsibility to obey our conscience and that it is formed in a way that reflects the true moral good.


166 posted on 07/26/2020 7:40:24 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

“ I didn’t add it.

“It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church.

.....

Interpretation does not add anything to the text.

You did, changing the meaning.

No one and no church has the authority to add to God’s Word.

Now your excuse appears to be you outsourced your mind to Rome??

Instead of fulfilling the commands to “show yourself approved...”

Thin gruel and unbiblical bro.


167 posted on 07/26/2020 7:44:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM

“ While I do not know you, you appear resistant to God’s Word and follow false teachers and reject God’s Word.”

Astounding projection, since your teachers added to God’s word and you trotted right after them spreading the resulting lie.

I alone of us wrote exactly what God said.

You added to it.


168 posted on 07/26/2020 7:47:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: Philsworld
Tell that to any Christian practicing homosexuality and willfully continuing in that sin. So, I beg to differ. The bible clearly says you are wrong as I’ve recently pointed out a few posts ago.

You mean the PARTS of the bible that will satisfy your particular bent on theology???

169 posted on 07/26/2020 9:04:03 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie

YOU ASK FORGIVENESS, then go and sin no more (try not to).
The woman in this story did NOT ‘ask for forgiveness’.


She didn’t need to. God WAS STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER IN PERSON and I suspect he sensed this....
https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/bible-study/how-could-jesus-offer-forgiveness-to-unrepentant-people.html#:~:text=Faith%20brings%20us%20near%20to%20Christ%20and%20he,sins%20of%20the%20people%20who%20are%20standing%20nearby.

A good place to start is by looking at other examples in the New Testament of Jesus forgiving people. For brevity, let’s consider other examples from the Gospel of Luke.

And when he saw their faith, he said, “Man, your sins are forgiven you” (Luke 5:20).
“I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven—for she loved much. But he who is forgiven little, loves little.” And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven” (Luke 7:47-48).
In both situations, notice that Jesus sees evidence of a person’s faith in him and then he forgives them.


170 posted on 07/26/2020 9:17:00 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: ADSUM
Since you do not believe 1 John 3:9 -that it is GOD abiding in the born again spirit, you can only see a carnal, fleshly meaning. Jesus gave the key to understanding what He said in John 6:53-58 in the verses your religion rejects, John 6:63, so your carnal mind can only imagine the carnal implications ... your religion teaches you that you can get spiritual Life in your spirit by physically eating what is impossible to be fed even by a hocus pocus pedophile priesthood, namely, you cannot eat the body, blood, AND DIVINITY into your digestive tract. Your false Christianity is based in satanic lies which blaspheme The Lord Christ and His TEACHINGS.

John 6:63 63It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life.

171 posted on 07/26/2020 9:18:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

YOU ASK FORGIVENESS, then go and sin no more (try not to).
TRY not to?


Yep


172 posted on 07/26/2020 9:19:58 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Elsie

I did.
Now what?


No pray for His help in getting a handle on that sin.


173 posted on 07/26/2020 9:21:15 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: SierraWasp; Elsie

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9


I agree


174 posted on 07/26/2020 9:23:02 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Iscool

Tell that to any Christian practicing homosexuality and willfully continuing in that sin. So, I beg to differ. The bible clearly says you are wrong as I’ve recently pointed out a few posts ago.

You mean the PARTS of the bible that will satisfy your particular bent on theology???


You can say what you want, but THOSE PARTS clearly show that SINNING WILLFULLY AFTER KNOWING THE TRUTH will send you straight to hell, and I don’t care what your sin is. If a Christian is not repentant and sincere after knowing the truth, that’s it for you.


175 posted on 07/26/2020 9:33:38 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: ADSUM
Jesus provided His Body and Blood in the Eucharist at the Last Supper and through His Catholic Church. Perhaps you are familiar with Jesus meeting two men on the road yo Emmaus where he shared a meal which reflects the Eucharistic liturgy, where Jesus gives himself to the church in word and sacrament in the breaking of the bread. Luke 24:30

Um, No...The breaking of bread had been a practice ever since bread was invented...Else how were two supposed to share a single loaf???

So these guys are walking along and a fella they don't recognize pulls up with them and starts talking about things only Jesus would know...It gets near suppertime and a loaf of bread shows up...Jesus had just expounded to them everything is the scriptures written about him (and there was plenty)...Jesus takes the bread and breaks it...All of a sudden everything clicks...They both remembered Jesus' words, 'Whenever you break bread, remember my broken body, whick is broken for you'...

Nowhere, anywhere is it ever suggested that Jesus turns bread and wine into flesh and blood...Nowhere anywhere is it ever suggested that someone else turned bread and wine into flesh and blood...And nowhere anywhere is it ever suggested that someone will turn bread and wine into flesh and blood nor instructed to do it or what procedure is required to do it...

For you to pull a Eucharist out of this story in Mark is ridiculous...But the Catholics who don't read the bible anyway wouldn't know the difference...After all, they heard it from the guy wearing the long robe, the priest...

176 posted on 07/26/2020 9:38:21 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Philsworld
Are you joking?

Well of course not...List the commandments of Jesus from the New Testament...

177 posted on 07/26/2020 9:40:16 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Philsworld
Those in heaven will all be commandment keepers: Old testament and new testament concur.

So you mean those only who are justified by the law in Romans 2??? Ever read the book of Galatians???

178 posted on 07/26/2020 9:42:31 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

And why would I do that...Unlike you, MHGinTN believes God and has a Christian testimony...


I have both. The difference between MHGinTN and I is that he doesn’t know how to RIGHTLY divide the word of God AND, he is a False teacher and commandment breaker. The same applies to a bunch of other people on this site. I believe you will know soon enough whether what I believe comes from a Cult or the word of God. But, case in point, the pre trib rapture. I’ve been accused of “cultish” teaching in saying there is no pre trib rapture and only a post trib. They say “it’s right there in scripture...look here, look there.” Yet, they still cannot tell me.....and here it comes....

HOW THEY CAN CHOP OFF THE LAST WEEK OF DANIEL’S 70 WEEK CONTINUOUS TIME PROPHECY, GIVEN BY GOD, AND MAGICALLY TRANSPORT IT 2000+ YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AND CALL THAT THE 7 YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD. It is a day for a year prophecy and it is continuous. Would you care to take a stab at it?


179 posted on 07/26/2020 9:43:51 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Iscool

Those in heaven will all be commandment keepers: Old testament and new testament concur.
So you mean those only who are justified by the law in Romans 2??? Ever read the book of Galatians???


Ever read the book of Revelation?


180 posted on 07/26/2020 9:45:35 AM PDT by Philsworld
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