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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So you are literal now: “Simple enough to check the Greek text and see you added it.” But you deny Christ’s emphatic words in John 6:53-58

I didn’t add it.

It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church. CCC2861

The Lord Jesus promised to be with us every day. Jesus is present to us in the Divine Sacrament, because Jesus is the Bread of Life.

While I do not know you, you appear resistant to God’s Word and follow false teachers and reject God’s Word.

If there is an incorrect conscience, that means that the conscience is erroneous in its view of truth. We all have a great responsibility to obey our conscience and that it is formed in a way that reflects the true moral good.


166 posted on 07/26/2020 7:40:24 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

“ I didn’t add it.

“It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church.

.....

Interpretation does not add anything to the text.

You did, changing the meaning.

No one and no church has the authority to add to God’s Word.

Now your excuse appears to be you outsourced your mind to Rome??

Instead of fulfilling the commands to “show yourself approved...”

Thin gruel and unbiblical bro.


167 posted on 07/26/2020 7:44:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM

“ While I do not know you, you appear resistant to God’s Word and follow false teachers and reject God’s Word.”

Astounding projection, since your teachers added to God’s word and you trotted right after them spreading the resulting lie.

I alone of us wrote exactly what God said.

You added to it.


168 posted on 07/26/2020 7:47:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM
Since you do not believe 1 John 3:9 -that it is GOD abiding in the born again spirit, you can only see a carnal, fleshly meaning. Jesus gave the key to understanding what He said in John 6:53-58 in the verses your religion rejects, John 6:63, so your carnal mind can only imagine the carnal implications ... your religion teaches you that you can get spiritual Life in your spirit by physically eating what is impossible to be fed even by a hocus pocus pedophile priesthood, namely, you cannot eat the body, blood, AND DIVINITY into your digestive tract. Your false Christianity is based in satanic lies which blaspheme The Lord Christ and His TEACHINGS.

John 6:63 63It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life.

171 posted on 07/26/2020 9:18:45 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM

“When a [person] is honestly mistaken, and is shown the Truth; s/he either ceases to be mistaken, ...

OR CEASES TO BE HONEST.”

— Dr. Martin Luther King

...

You’ve now been shown the actual Greek, where your added words do not appear.

Your call.


187 posted on 07/26/2020 10:13:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: ADSUM; aMorePerfectUnion
It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church. CCC2861

In other words, you added it...

191 posted on 07/26/2020 10:25:45 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: ADSUM; aMorePerfectUnion
you deny Christ’s emphatic words in John 6:53-58

Actually if you take "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:53-54) literally, as with other "verily, verily" statements, then it is you who deny this - unless you deny the affirmation of V2 that properly baptized Prots have the Holy Spirit, for they deny the Catholic Real Presence.

Quoting the CCC is not going to help you here, for their is no ignorance clause in the verses you have chosen to take literally in your private interpretation (unless you can provide an infallible interpretation that states what your interpretation requires) of John 6:53,54.

As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. (John 6:57)

Which actually refutes your semi-literal "real flesh" since Christ did not spiritually live by consuming anything literally, but instead He stated that,

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)

And thus,

Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. (John 4:34)

Therefore to consume the body and blood of the Word of God made flesh is to ingest His word, and thus be born spiritually by this word, for "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life," (John 6:63)thus that having "believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (Ephesians 1:13) by the Lord who "begat he us with the word of truth." (James 1:18)

For rather than your isolationist eisegesis and metaphysical "Real Presence," it is only the metaphorical understanding that easily conflates with the rest of Scripture.

t is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church. CCC2861...While I do not know you, you appear resistant to God’s Word and follow false teachers and reject God’s Word.

Rather, this is simply more example of insolent question-begging illogical assertions, presuming the very premise that has been refuted. Rather than the ensured ecclesiastical veracity your assertions presume,it remains that distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

200 posted on 07/26/2020 1:49:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ADSUM

I didn’t add it.  Rome did!!

It is the interpretation of the teaching of Christ’s Catholic church based on the authority Christ gave His Church. CCC2861

 


CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
SECOND EDITION

2861 In the fourth petition, by saying "give us," we express in communion with our brethren our filial trust in our heavenly Father. "Our daily bread" refers to the earthly nourishment necessary to everyone for subsistence, and also to the Bread of Life: the Word of God and the Body of Christ. It is received in God's "today," as the indispensable, (super-) essential nourishment of the feast of the coming Kingdom anticipated in the Eucharist.


This is as good as Adam blaming GOD for his following along with Eve in her sin!!

Genesis 3:12

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”


223 posted on 07/26/2020 3:28:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
But you deny Christ’s emphatic words in John 6:53-58

Catholics deny Christ’s emphatic words in John 6:28-29;
as well as Matthew 23:8-9


Matthew 23 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
 
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples,
2 Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses.
3 All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them.
5 And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes.
6 And they love the first places at feasts, and the first chairs in the synagogues,
7 And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi.
8 But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren.
9 And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven.
 

rabbi

1

noun, plural rab·bis.

the chief religious official of a synagogue, trained usually in a theological seminary and duly ordained, who delivers the sermon at a religious service and performs ritualistic, pastoral, educational, and other functions in and related to his or her capacity as a spiritual leader of Judaism and the Jewish community.
 
(Golly! If I didn't know better; this definition could be the same as a Catholic priest!)

226 posted on 07/26/2020 3:36:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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