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Italy is Dying: Country’s Birth Rate Drops to its Lowest Level in History
LifeSite News ^ | 2/20/20 | Dorothy Cummings McLean

Posted on 02/22/2020 5:20:41 PM PST by marshmallow

The shrinking population affects the 'very existence of our country,' President Sergio Mattarella warns.

ROME, Italy, February 20, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) ― Italy welcomed its smallest number of newborns in 2019, leading its president to foretell the country’s doom.

“This is a problem that concerns the very existence of our country,” said Sergio Mattarella, 78.

“The fabric of our country is weakening, and everything must be done to counter this phenomenon.”

According to Italy’s national statistics agency, ISTAT, there were only 435,000 births in Italy last year, the lowest number ever recorded in the country, compared with 647,000 deaths.

The number of births was down 5,000 from 2018, and the number of deaths increased by 14,000.

Reuters reported that Italy’s overall population fell by 116,000 to 60.3 million despite the growing number of births to migrants to the country. The news agency also noted that “Italy’s population had risen virtually every year since World War I, hitting a peak in 2015 at 60.8 million, but has since started to decline.”

Life expectancy has increased to 85.3 years for Italian women and 81 years for Italian men. The decrease in births and increase in life expectancy has resulted in an average age of 45.7.

When the low number of Italian births for 2018 was reported, then-interior minister Matteo Salvini said, “We are in a terrible state.”

“This is the real crisis (in Italy), not the bond yield spreads or the economic crisis.”

Italian-American Beverly Stevens, editor of Regina magazine, told LifeSiteNews that the sexual revolution is to blame for the low Italian birth rate.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: birthrate; children; europe; italy
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To: Captain Walker
I wish the Protestants would see that birth control was an intrinsic evil

I wish they saw it was wrong, including NFP, but you must include Catholics as well, since those Rome manifestly considers to be members use contraception about as much as Protestants, and evangelicals have about as many kids as Caths.

And consider Italy:

n the spring of 2016 the Pew Research Center found that 81.7% of the population of Italy was affiliated with the Catholic Church, out of a Christian population of 85.1% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Italy#cite_ref-Survey_1-2

But once you can become your own pope

And just how does a Bible Christian presume personal infallibility in teaching, versus veracity resting upon Scriptural substantiation? Is it wrong to test what is taught by Scripture?

But if making the veracity of RC teaching subject to examination, based upon how one understand ancient church teaching, means that such is presuming to be pope rather than just submitting to what your current church teaches, then once again you must deal with your own./

61 posted on 02/22/2020 8:06:14 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: cdcdawg

porn has decreased the average male from having actual sex....so much trouble, and messy too....why bother....


62 posted on 02/22/2020 8:11:36 PM PST by cherry
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To: ealgeone
That's what I said. NFP is Birth Control of a sort. It's a sort of Birth Control.

It's a way to avoid, postpone, space, or achieve pregnancy by cooperation with the female fertility cycle.

I said "of a sort" because most people think Birth Control = Contraception, Sterilization, Abortion and Infanticide. It's associated with anti-natalism, and with these actions which are widely regarded as morally objectionable.

I was pointing out that Birth Control also might be seen as including periodic marital abstinence and breastfeeding. These practices regulate the number and spacing of births, but are not contraception. You will generally not find them mentioned in Birth Control literature.

For that matter, postponing intercourse until marriage, and postponing marriage until you're ready to raise a family, are also widespread forms of birth regulation, but are not contraception.

63 posted on 02/22/2020 8:15:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Factually.)
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To: cherry

I hope nobody takes a good long look at that, because it might look like subversion of a culture and society.


64 posted on 02/22/2020 8:15:49 PM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a pony soldier!)
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To: dsc

That’s what I thought you’d do. A wise move on your part to retreat before you’re embarrassed by your denomination’s dogmas. Most of which you probably are unaware of.


65 posted on 02/22/2020 8:16:39 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s a means to avoid pregnancy for many RCs. Hence a form of contraception.


66 posted on 02/22/2020 8:18:48 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow
Italian-American Beverly Stevens, editor of Regina magazine, told LifeSiteNews that the sexual revolution is to blame for the low Italian birth rate.

Yes and no.

A main reason for the low birth rate is the disinclination to kick their kids out of the house.

When mommy is providing maid service and dad is providing shelter why would a guy move out and get married?

Trust me, wife is not going to worship him the way mommy does. She might even get pregnant and then want to (gasp) stop bringing home a pay check to raise their off spring.

The horror!

That would mean that he would be the sole support of his family and who needs that kind of pressure?

67 posted on 02/22/2020 8:26:26 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: marshmallow

The economic conditions and social upheaval due to many factors worldwide shouldn’t be discounted for reasons for the low birth rate. Plus the ill effects of feminism.


68 posted on 02/22/2020 8:43:09 PM PST by Crucial
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To: cymbeline
My father in law worked for a volunteer fire department whose motto was ‘we always save the lot’. The Italian lot will always be there. If the inhabitants are juggled who cares?

Please help me understand what you are saying here.

In what way will the "Italian lot" always be there?

What does it mean to "juggle" the inhabitants?

Are you saying that it doesn't matter who populates the Italian peninsula - that "someone" (regardless of ethnicity and cultural background) will always be there to move in and take over if the autocthonic populace dies out?

Is that what you are saying?

Regards,

69 posted on 02/22/2020 9:12:30 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ealgeone
It is important to notice the real distinction between appreciating and respecting the natural structure of sexuality, vs rejecting and impairing it.

Practices which do not try to impair the natural fertility of the body, whether temporarily or permanently, include premarital virginity, periodic marital abstinence, and breastfeeding.

These are not, accurately speaking, "contra" ceptive because they do not impair the body's conceptive potential.

When you were a virgin, were you contracepting? Clearly not. Are our unmarried, sexually abstinent schoolchildren, contraceptors? Clearly not.

Virginity is not contraception.

Abstinence is not contraception.

Having marital relations after menopause, or during the infertile part of the cycle, is not contraception. The difference between temporary abstinence, and contraception, could be compared to the difference between temporary fasting, vs eating-and-purging.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to explain that.

70 posted on 02/22/2020 9:23:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Factually.)
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To: ealgeone
NFP is not contraception, because -- just like any other kind of sexual abstinence --- it does not change the nature of sexual intercourse.

I can explain this for you, but I can't understand it for you.

G'night, and God bless.

71 posted on 02/22/2020 9:37:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: marshmallow

They had the same problem in the 3rd and 4th centuries.


72 posted on 02/22/2020 9:56:19 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: cherry

Yeah, “average male”, maybe, but some of us won’t go anywhere near it, even the softest of soft (and I’ve got a new girlfriend in Spokane).


73 posted on 02/22/2020 9:58:32 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ealgeone

Dunning Kruger, illusory superiority. Look it up, if you can.


74 posted on 02/23/2020 12:43:09 AM PST by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: marshmallow

This is a problem all over the western world. Most of our young people are more interested in traveling and partying than in raising children. I know many married couples well into their thirties who don’t plan on having kids because it would screw up their next trip to Hawaii or whereever.


75 posted on 02/23/2020 4:44:58 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s a means to avoid pregnancy is it not?


76 posted on 02/23/2020 5:16:49 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow

The muzzies are pouring in and will take over, just like Austria, Germany, France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. The muzzies are there and ready.


77 posted on 02/23/2020 5:19:22 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Bible tells us the happenings of the Last Days. Those days are HERE! Deny it at your own peril)
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To: marshmallow

Birth rates fluctuate naturally up and down like the climate. Nothing to see here. Italy will be fine AS LONG AS THEY STOP all immigration.


78 posted on 02/23/2020 5:19:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dsc
Has nothing to do with my question you are avoiding. If you can’t handle the debate in these public perhaps you should stay away from them.

There is a Roman Catholic poster though who daily posts articles against your pope and denomination. Perhaps those are more suited for you.

79 posted on 02/23/2020 5:20:32 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o
NFP is not contraception,....

Birth control: Birth control is the use of any practices, methods, or devices to prevent pregnancy from occurring in a sexually active woman. Also referred to as family planning, pregnancy prevention, fertility control, or contraception; birth control methods are designed either to prevent fertilization of an egg or implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus.

Birth control is any method used to prevent pregnancy. There are many different methods of birth control including condoms, IUDs, birth control pills, the rhythm method, vasectomy, and tubal ligation.

*****

Seems science disagrees with you on what is birth control.

80 posted on 02/23/2020 5:41:15 AM PST by ealgeone
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