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A Dramatic Moment in Biblical History that Almost Everyone Missed
Archdiocese of Wahington ^ | 01-30-20 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/31/2020 9:07:54 AM PST by Salvation

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To: ebb tide

Actually it is quite funny. Now run along back to your two post caucus threads bashing your own denomination.


41 posted on 01/31/2020 8:06:41 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Is that another threat of yours?

And look who’s talking about “bashing”.


42 posted on 01/31/2020 8:12:39 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone
I’ve told zero lies about Rome.

You can't say the same for someone's lies about me and my Faith.

Do "pagan idols" and "omcet" ring a bell?

43 posted on 01/31/2020 8:20:51 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

Paul was a Catholic. Read your Bible.


44 posted on 01/31/2020 10:00:01 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I actually do read my Bible. Nowhere do I see Paul identifying with any sect - he does declare He follows Christ not any teacher. Paul would have recoiled in horror at many of the extra biblical teachings of the Roman Church


45 posted on 01/31/2020 10:04:40 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Followed Christ

And Christ founded the Catholic Church on the Apostles. Haven’t you read about how Paul ordained men in the different areas he visited? Especially accounts in Titus and Timothy?


46 posted on 01/31/2020 11:20:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MikelTackNailer

and there you go with “mary worship” something no one does.


47 posted on 02/01/2020 12:19:18 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: Salvation

Christ founded the Church comprised of all believers not the Roman church. Titus and Timothy had bit i g to do with a denomination that was formed hundreds of years after their deaths. Or do you have a scripture reference pointing to the Roman chiurch? I’m all ears. And don’t trot out the debunked thou art Peter passage please.


48 posted on 02/01/2020 1:21:17 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: ealgeone
"Show me what I wrote in error on this topic."

It's a lot easier to enumerate what you got right. Now, I haven't seen everything you've ever posted, but I think I've seen enough to be a valid statistical sample. Of that sample, the things you've gotten "right" number exactly zero.

49 posted on 02/01/2020 4:18:10 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Didn't think you could.
50 posted on 02/01/2020 4:42:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
Is that another threat of yours?

Nope.

And look who’s talking about “bashing”.

Yes...I see all your anti-Roman Catholic threads.

51 posted on 02/01/2020 4:44:05 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
You can't say the same for someone's lies about me and my Faith.

Zero lies have been told about you. My, you're a paranoid individual.

Do "pagan idols" and "omcet" ring a bell?

Not for me...maybe for you.

52 posted on 02/01/2020 4:46:10 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
Paul was a Catholic. Read your Bible.

LOL....now that'd be funny....if it weren't so wrong.

When Paul wrote about spiritual warfare did he write about the Rosary? Nope.

Ever instruct anyone to pray to Mary? Nope.

53 posted on 02/01/2020 4:47:37 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation; Mom MD
And Christ founded the Catholic Church on the Apostles.

No. As so often when RCs attempt to quote Scripture they do so out of context.

20having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, 21in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, Ephesians 2:20-21 NASB

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Haven’t you read about how Paul ordained men in the different areas he visited?

Haven't you read about how God called Paul?

God can and still calls men to serve Him today.

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Especially accounts in Titus and Timothy?

You mean those accounts where Paul talks about ministers being allowed to marry???? Those accounts that Roman Catholicism have disregarded.

54 posted on 02/01/2020 5:04:24 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
"Didn't think you could."

I just did. But I'll entertain your idiocy for a while. You claim that the Rosary "worships Mary".

Tell me exactly how and where any such "worship" happens (here's a hint....it doesn't).

55 posted on 02/01/2020 8:22:27 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I just did.

No. All you offered was a very generic statement.

But I'll entertain your idiocy for a while. You claim that the Rosary "worships Mary".

And as I have observed that it is usually, though not always, the Roman Catholic who first resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them....which is often.

Tell me exactly how and where any such "worship" happens (here's a hint....it doesn't).

The Rosary is a prayer TO Mary. That in itself is sufficient to show it is an act of worship as all prayer is to be directed to God.

In fact there are far more prayers TO Mary in the Rosary with each Mystery having 57 Hail Marys, 1 Hail Holy Queen, and 6 Our Fathers.

I don't know if you're one of the Roman Catholics who believes the 15 "promises of the Rosary", but if you are a quick review shows they are pagan and contradict Scripture.

11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.

There is no promise in the Bible that anything we ask from Mary is granted. No where.

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3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.

This again contradicts Scripture as Paul notes the spiritual armor for the believer in Ephesians 6.

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This is but a small sample of the errors of the Rosary.

56 posted on 02/01/2020 9:48:06 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
"The Rosary is a prayer TO Mary. That in itself is sufficient to show it is an act of worship as all prayer is to be directed to God.

Wrong.

"In fact there are far more prayers TO Mary in the Rosary with each Mystery having 57 Hail Marys, 1 Hail Holy Queen, and 6 Our Fathers."

NONE of those are "to" Mary. The "Hail Mary" is a direct quotation of the greeting by the Archangel Gabriel TO Mary when he informed her that she would bear the Messiah. The prayer comes directly from Scripture. So, unless you want to accuse one of God's righteous angels of worshiping Mary, you have no case.

"Hail Holy Queen" is merely floral language asking Mary to pray for us. Protestants ask for prayers all the time.

And of course, the "Our Father" is a prayer to, guess who...God the Father.

"I don't know if you're one of the Roman Catholics who believes the 15 "promises of the Rosary", but if you are a quick review shows they are pagan and contradict Scripture."

The "promises of the Rosary" are not part of the prayer....so you lose again.

As usual...wrong on all counts. You're still batting 100% fouls.

57 posted on 02/01/2020 12:18:40 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog
>>"The Rosary is a prayer TO Mary. That in itself is sufficient to show it is an act of worship as all prayer is to be directed to God.<<

Wrong.

Uh....the Rosary has prayer TO Mary via the "Hail Marys" which are prayers to Mary.

So, yes. I am correct.

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>> "In fact there are far more prayers TO Mary in the Rosary with each Mystery having 57 Hail Marys, 1 Hail Holy Queen, and 6 Our Fathers."<<

NONE of those are "to" Mary.

Hail Mary, full of grace.

So who is the prayer addressing???

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The "Hail Mary" is a direct quotation of the greeting by the Archangel Gabriel TO Mary when he informed her that she would bear the Messiah.

There is SOME Scripture in the Hail Mary....but not all of it is Scripture.

The bolded parts below ARE NOT part of Scripture and contradict Scripture.

The astute will notice the prayer TO Mary yet again.

Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, Now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

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"Hail Holy Queen" is merely floral language asking Mary to pray for us.

Floral language, eh?

Hail Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our Life, our Sweetness, and our hope. To thee we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then most gracious advocate, Thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us, the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Pray for us O Holy Mother of God, That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Amen.

Protestants ask for prayers all the time.

Yes, Christians ask fellow believers on earth to pray for each other in accordance with Scripture. However, we don't use, as attempt to call it, "floral language" in these requests. And we pray straight to God in accordance with Scripture.

I always find it comical when the Roman Catholic attempts to downplay the worship of Mary.

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>> "I don't know if you're one of the Roman Catholics who believes the 15 "promises of the Rosary", but if you are a quick review shows they are pagan and contradict Scripture."<<

The "promises of the Rosary" are not part of the prayer....so you lose again.

Never said they were.

However, these folks associate the two.

The Blessed Virgin Mary promised to Saint Dominic and to all who follow that "Whatever you ask in the Rosary will be granted." She left for all Christians Fifteen Promises to those who recite the Holy Rosary. http://www.themostholyrosary.com/15promises.htm

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Seems your issue is with your fellow Roman Catholics.

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To sum up. Everything I have said is correct. You have been unable to refute anything I've said. I knew you wouldn't be able to.

58 posted on 02/01/2020 2:58:03 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Zero lies have been told about you.

More false witness. You can fool yourself, but you're not fooling God.

59 posted on 02/01/2020 3:48:29 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

Wrong again, and intellectually dishonest to boot. Selective quotation, comments taken out of context.
Nope...not gonna interact further with someone of your ilk.

Bye!


60 posted on 02/01/2020 3:57:24 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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