The creation of the entire pre-Trib rapturist 19th century belief system — as the author points out — is Satanic in nature.
The Pre-Trib tries to deny Christ’s words and also distort’s Daniel who very clearly prophesises the time up to Christ — Christ is the rock uncut by human hands that shatters the iron-clay Roman Empire.
Then the uncut rock becomes a mountain that covers the entire earth - Christianity.
Daniel’s prophecy very clearly, very, very clearly talks about the THEN coming destruction of Jerusalem after it was rebuilt.
The 70 odd years from Christ’s birth to the destruction of the 2nd Temple, the 40 years (one generation) from the time Jesus says “THIS generation “ will see the destruction of the temple.
The book of the Apocalypse--the Revelation--the unveiling of th tribulation and its consequences, written AFTER Tisha b'Av, completely negates and wipes out your false premise.
Your totally false premise and whatever you say henceforth in this thread that you have drummed up, deserves no further attention.
The pre-Tribulation Rapture is true.
Two companies of saints respond to that great commanding shout in I Thessalonians 4:13-18: (A) The dead in Christ (hoi nekroi en Christo) shall rise first” (v16). The same verb used of Christ (v14) is used here of the resurrection of His own. The limiting phrase, “in Christ,” shows that this resurrection is confined to believers who have died from Pentecost, the incorporation of the Church. This limitation is supported by a number of Scriptural arguments. (a) The phrase “in Christ” is the NT term used only of believers in this gospel age. (b) The phrase “they that are Christ’s” (1Cor 15:23) is wider and includes believers of every age; but there are different “orders” or “ranks” in the resurrection unto life. Believers in the Church are just one of the ranks: “but every man in his own order.” (c) The resurrection of OT saints must be left where the OT places it in the divine timetable, at the close of the Tribulation period (Dan 12:1-2). Any interpretation that spiritualizes this resurrection to make it refer to the spiritual recovery of the nation of Israel stands self-condemned, misinterprets the passage, and misreads the context. This resurrection will include believers who have died in the Tribulation period (Rev 20:4-6).
(B) “We which are alive and remain” (hemeis hoi zontes perileipomenoi); living believers comprise the second company. Responding to that summons, their very bodies changing (1Cor 15:51-57), rising, they mingle and become one company (sun autois). Simultaneously, they are “caught up together.” The verb (harpazo) inherently has the idea of force in it: “take by force” (John 6:15) or “pluck away” (John 10:28); but “catch up or catch away” is a good translation. So translated on five other occasions in the AV (Matt 13:19; Acts 8:39; 2Cor 12:2, 4; Rev 12:5), it simply implies a swift, sudden removal of each believer by a superior force. In the Vulgate, the Latin word used by Jerome (345-420 BC) for harpazo is rapio, rapere, which translates into English as “to tear, to snatch, to carry off, to seize quickly.” It is by this Latin-based word that, in more recent times, believers have come to refer to this event as the Rapture. Such an endearing term delights our hearts.
First Thessalonians 4 deals with the problem of saints who have died before the Lord comes for the Church. In 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, the apostle has to consider a different angle – the problem posed by saints who are alive when the Lord comes. The dead saints, in this case, offer no problem. Their bodies, in rising from the grave, put on the incorruptible body patterned on Christ’s body. Since “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (v50), the bodies of living saints must be changed. Paul writes, “Behold I show you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump” (v51). In 1 Thessalonians 4:16, the same trumpet is mentioned. For living believers, it is the signal for being clothed upon with the new body fitted for the kingdom. Incorruptibility and immortality belong inherently to this body (Phil 3:20-21). The change takes place in an instant of time; so quickly it cannot be measured by human technology.
At His ascension “a cloud received Him out of their sight” (Acts 1:9), and now the clouds receive the saints as they leave earth behind and move “to meet the Lord in the air” (1Thes 4:17). There is no suggestion in either passage that the clouds should be other than literal clouds, beyond which the saints have that special meeting with their Lord in the air. There is no obvious reason why air should not carry its normal NT meaning of “atmosphere,” so it will be behind the clouds in the atmosphere of the heavens, in its nearness to earth, and will thus be a testimony of the triumph of the power of Christ over Satanic power, calling away His Bride from earth. In Hellenistic Greek the word “meeting” carries the thought of a ceremonial presentation to a superior dignity but perhaps, in this context, Paul makes use of the basic meaning of the word “meeting,” as the Church, the Bride, meets her Lord as the Bridegroom. What a meeting that will be!
Paul does not tell us what follows the meeting in the air. For Paul, for the troubled Thessalonians, and for us, the ultimate comfort lies in the next sentence, “and so shall we ever be with the Lord” (v17). No believer needs anything beyond this absolute assurance. Here we rest. Eternity carries not the slightest fear.
Our Salvation in the Day of GRACE defies the prospect of suffering thru the Tribulation.
The suffering of Saints(Believers) has NOTHING to do with Salvation:
Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the gift of God:
9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.
POST TRIBULATION proponents are sadly mistaken if they think ANYTHING they Do, or suffer, is part of the GIFT of God.
That is simply untrue!
Holly Deyo at
documents how the teaching was present in the first centuries of Christianity.
Is the PREtribulation Rapture a New Teaching?
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/rapture_not_new.htm
"Pre=Trib Teachers before 1830?"
https://raptureforums.com/forums/threads/pre-trib-teachers-before-1830.55736/
https://www.raptureready.com/the-pretribulation-rapture/
New Evidence of a Pre-Tribulation Coming of Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s3nkz9Wu-o
Settling the Pre, Mid and Post Tribulation Controversy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9PKrvpudU
Biblical Evidence for the Pre-Tribulation Catching Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Kb79recHo
I'm kind of disgusted to sick of the biblical ignorance of preterists et al--so much so I don't really care to even attempt to dialogue with them any more. But I do think there's a ton of evidence for PRE-TRIB and that that perspective deserves to be heard & prayerfully considered. The above links are quick off-the top of my head etc.
I sometimes wonder why God didn't make it abundantly explicitly clear--no argument--in the Bible. I don't know. Perry Stone would probably say He did.
I don't think it is a super priority to argue about but is worth researching and knowing Biblically why you have the perspective you do on it. I do think it is hazardous to be rigid on a lot of prophetic stuff. God has a habit of springing surprises on us all.
It seems likely to me that the final solution to the issue will surprise all sides. Certainly Christ's first coming surprised the Biblical scholars of His earthly walk days.
To me, the critical issue is that "God did not appoint us to His wrath." That seems, to me, to prevent a Rapture after the Mid-Trib point. And, I think the bulk of the Biblical evidence is on the side of Pre-trib.
I think Perry Stone makes the most sense with his considerable list of reasons to believe Pre-trib. He's a bit strident but tolerable. Certainly he is well researched & Biblically educated as well as historically educated.
Anyway--my 2 cents.