Is Catholicism about to break into three?

the CRUX ^ | oct 6 2015 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

[Elsie]

Is this a prelude to ProtestantISM II?

[ConservativeMind]

Because we all know the “breakaway” Orthodox churches aren’t already this...

[Elsie]

Here is another fella’s experience:

https://triablogue.blogspot.com/2019/09/to-be-deep-into-catholicism-is-to-cease.html?showComment=1568291808561#c6196772303838035831

[Sacajaweau]

I think most Catholics just ignore the Pope and all the cra* he's been dishing out.

He, too, shall pass....hopefully soon.

[spirited irish]

As the Protestant church has been fracturing and splintering since the Reformation, it’s not likely that there will be a Protestantism II since the the splits have already resulted in an orthodox church or remnant within the larger disintegrating Baptist, Reformed, Lutheran, and Episcopal (now Anglican). The other splits roughly correspond to occult neo-pagan progressivism, Gnosticism, and secular (i.e.., entertainment, works righteousness).

[Vaquero]

The slippery slope began with Vatican 2. John Paul 2 was a good Pope and I believe Benedict was also. Before that it was my Pope. From my birth to his death. Pius XII.

I truly disliked the mass after it was in English instead of Latin. And the guitar mass was truly awful. Give me a Gregorian Chant or Christmas carols in Latin The whole feel of the mass and the church changed after Pius.

[Cronos]

Yup. At the end of the day, he’s temporary. Jesus Christ is permanent

[Night Hides Not]

I'm one of those Catholics that ignores the Pope.

As one who graduated from a Jesuit university, my experience with Jesuits was nothing but positive.

Pope Francis IMO will go down in history as the first, and only, Jesuit pope.

[Cronos]

You’re right

First Lutheranism - still kept the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, priests, confessions too etc.

Then Calvinism junks the True Presence but kept the rest

Then Anglicans tried to merge the two.

Then in the 1600s you have Baptists who decide to junk out the baptism part (weird name) and the eucharist.

Then you have the wackadoodle millerites

Then you have Mormons, Jehovah’s witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists

Then you have Evangelicals including the Oneness Pentecostals who reject the Trinity - going the way of the Unitarians who are now “post-Christian”

[foreverfree]

bump

[Sacajaweau]

I agree with everything you’re saying...The handshakes and guitar were the end of mass for me.....

[paterfamilias]

Old article, but an interesting discussion nonetheless.

I believe that a schism is going to happen, but it will be a binary schism: Traditionalists and everybody else.

In view of the fact that Traditionalists’ support of the Church, both financially and by their actions, far outstrips the participation of the rest, it will be only a matter of time before the non-Trad Church withers because of lack of money and practicing Catholics.

Additional factors that will eventually result in a thriving Trad Church are the great success of Trad seminaries, the (surprising) influx of young adults into churches that celebrate the Trad Latin Mass, and the high fecundity of Trad Catholic families.

[Levy78]

I will launch fireworks they day this satanic Marxist croaks.

[Titus-Maximus]

Our Lady of Mel Gibson Catholic Church

[bantam]

“I believe that a schism is going to happen, but it will be a binary schism: Traditionalists and everybody else.”
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I agree with this assessment!! It’s gonna be traditional vs the rest(Libs)

[bantam]

+1

It is an abomination what he has done to the church thus far!!!!!

[Bishop_Malachi]

“...are still bonded to the church but not to the Roman curia...”

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This is impossible. It’s the Curia that determines how the sacraments are administered. You cannot practice Roman Catholicism in any meaningful way for very long by being indifferent to the actions of the Curia. These people are Protestants without calling themselves Protestants.

[Biggirl]

Sadly,the Church,including the Pope and the Roman is in a “fine mess”.

[Biggirl]

Correction: Roman Curia.

[Buckeye McFrog]

Is this a prelude to ProtestantISM II?

I think the answer is sadly yes. At the very least a split into two churches. All of the dubias and strongly worded letters in the world are not going to dislodge Francis and his cabal from the levers of power at the Vatican. If anything they are in the process of consolidating their power.

Catholics are going to have to decide whether they want to continue to go along to avoid schism (which in my view makes us enablers), or pick-up our ball and leave to start over.

Whichever, that moment of decision is coming.