When you guys get tired of playing; you can find me on another thread.
Posted on 08/27/2019 5:04:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
Edited on 08/27/2019 5:58:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Whenever God does ANYTHING in this world, He is opposed and hated. Anything at all. If God makes His mark, here on Earth, either the Devil tries to wreck it, or Satan inspires his children to do so. This disdain for all creation and any constructive thing is an anti-Logos, pernicious spirit of ruin. This deep brand of hate is a religious way of thinking, and this feeling can be as shallow or go as deep as it wants. The hate I’m talking about can be a subtle inclination, or it can be an overt obsession. For example, you can be either a Soviet-minded Bolshevist, or you could simply be a vandalizer—you’re serving the Evil Cause in some capacity.
His first problem here is looking for something besides Christ. There is no *True Church* to join because Jesus does not endorse any one religion or denomination over and above another.
His instructions to people were to *Follow Me*.
Oh, so there's really more than one baptism.
Additionally, I do have a problem with anti-Protestant propaganda posted under the guise of it just being someone's "personal testimony of his conversion". Did you not even read the full article???
In the past here Roman Catholics have gotten threads pulled and posters zotted for opening threads that they perceived as being "anti-Catholic". Some RCs got their feelings hurt to read about former nuns and priests who left Catholicism for Evangelical Protestantism (you know, someone's personal testimony of their conversion) or threads that defended the Reformation and Reformed doctrines. I think there is perhaps too much sensitivity now towards threads that might be viewed as critical of Catholicism which has stifled the conversation and cut off the function of iron sharpening iron that theological topics can engender. We ARE warned about the atmosphere of OPEN Religion Forum threads but it doesn't seem to prevent whining and accusations of hatred for simply saying why we disagree and the RM being kept busy with abuse complaints. I'd say check your motivation for posting something and be conscious of how others may receive them. After all, if you truly want to bring glory to Jesus Christ you will:
You’re right! PTL
It only mentions non-Catholics twice and both times it is not an attack -- the second time says Who would convince me of their authenticity? It wasn’t the Baptists or the Pentecostals, and it wasn’t the Eastern Orthodox. -- note the "convince ME" - this isn't attacking the beliefs of those groups, just that the author was convinced by God in a different way - to the Church.
The article reads as one person's spiritual journey in Christ - to the Church.
There is no attack upon your or any other non-Catholic's belief system
I would suspect if you suggested to this person that he examine the sins in his own life and focus his prayers on eradicating his sins, he would become indignant. Too many people play church these days.
Which means that you must rightfully expect challenges and reproof of that elitist claim for a church whose distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed , rather than, like an intolerant liberal, not even reading posts that do (or lying by saying you do not), and simply relegating such to being haters, which is a liberal tactic of avoidance.
P.S. Hss there been any censorship on this thread of you protestants?
A late hour misspelling: the spelling is censure, the definition of which includes "adverse criticism, disapproval, or blame." We also censure, but the issue is your seeming expectation that you should be able to post provocative articles and make statements that denigrate others without being reproved, dismissing such as being haters, "exposing the hatred," "bumping the hatred."
And Americans do not just include the inhabitants of Washington. Meaning you have tried this before and been reproved, yet her you go again. As said, the use of Roan Catholic or RC,
is not in distinction btwn Latin and Eastern Rite but for all in professed subjection to and communion with the so-called Bishop of Rome, and to be one of the Catholic rites one must be in submission to/in full communion with the Bishop of Rome the pope, despite some differences in custom and liturgical practice from Latin Catholics. And the use in history of "Roman Catholic" by popes and the Vatican herself speaks to all Catholic churches in full communion with her, but which the Eastern Orthodox are not.
From Catholic sources:
After the Eastern Schism in 1054, eastern churches no longer in union with Rome came to be known as Eastern Orthodox or simply “Orthodox Churches.” Eastern Churches that remained in union with Rome are called Eastern Catholic Churches, or often the “Eastern Church.” An easy way to remember is this: “If the name of the Eastern Church as “Orthodox” in its title, it is not in union with Rome. - https://www.avemariapress.com/engagingfaith/2016/08/what-difference-between-eastern-catholic-churches-/
Are Byzantine Catholics really Catholic? Unequivocally, YES. We are Catholics in union with the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) whom we recognize as the visible ...- http://www.epiphanybyzantinecatholic.org/faq.html
And I do not know where you get just 22 rites, for my many sources count 24 autonomous Catholic churches: One Latin Church (i.e., Western) and 23 Eastern Catholic Churches" all in full communion with the Pope in Rome. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches)
The Catholic Church is actually composed of 24 churches — one Latin (Roman), which comprises perhaps 98% of all Catholics worldwide, and 23 "Eastern" or “Oriental” churches. All recognize the authority of the papacy.. - https://www.catholicsandcultures.org/eastern-catholic-churches
Again. my use of RC overall encompasses all in professed subjection to the so-called Bishop of Rome, which (with a few exceptions to normatively requiring celibacy for priests) profess distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels), which is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation. but in distinction from Eastern Orthodox, which are held to be in schism, with irreconcilable (after 1,000 years) substantial differences , and also consider themselves to be uniquely be the one true church.
In the Nicene Creed of faith our Church is described as the "One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church": "One" because there can only be one true Church with one head Who is Christ... Each of these titles is limiting in some respects, since they define Christians belonging to particular historical or regional Churches of the Orthodox communion.. .“because it has all the proper attributes, the Orthodox Church is the living realization of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.” — http://www.antiochian.org/node/17076
On these threads it's Roman Catholics I'm dealing with.
Perhaps you should change your point of view?
et: Try looking up baptism be desire.
Try showing that in Scripture. There is no Biblically supported "baptism be desire", though I think you meant baptism by desire.
There are some within other denominations that would have those of us who aren't in their denomination killed as well.
History shows this.
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ebb must be lonely over there in his caucus threads where there are only one or two posts.
When you guys get tired of playing; you can find me on another thread.
Truly you have a dizzying intellect.
I still have no clue as to why you feel so
demeaned by an organization that
you so despise for not being what it is.
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It’s a struggle in every soul.
The gallery doth
protest too much,
methinks.
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Unprovable.
It was love that led me to Him for salvation and away from the false religion of Catholicism.
What are YOU trying to say?
Aren’t you the one that is actually glad you’re not
like (what you misunderstand) us Catholics (to be).
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