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To: ealgeone

Jesus of Nazareth was born.

The Second Person of the Trinity was not born but always was.

Thus, Jesus only existed at a certain point and not before.

Jesus did not exist until He took on flesh in Mary’s womb. The Second Person of the Trinity ALWAYS existed.

This isn’t hard. This is right out of John 1.

John 1: 1-3: In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things came to be through him,
and without him nothing came to be.

John 1:14: And the Word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us,
and we saw his glory,
the glory as of the Father’s only Son,
full of grace and truth.

The Second Person of the Trinity BECAME FLESH. Only after John says that does he refer to “Jesus Christ” in verse 17.

Perhaps you’re one of the “less orthodox” referred to below:

Douglas McCready, in his analysis and defence of the pre-existence of Christ, notes that whereas the preexistence of Christ “is taken for granted by most orthodox Christians, and has been since New Testament times”, during the past century the doctrine has been increasingly questioned by less orthodox theologians and scholars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-existence_of_Christ

Once again we see how easily anti-Catholics fall into error or heresy in their desperate bid to attack the Catholic faith.


259 posted on 08/20/2019 8:18:31 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998; ebb tide
Your logic means Jesus existed before Jesus existed - which is an impossibility.

You're words, vlad....which btw you will see again in future conversations. You're squirming vlad.

And here I thought ebb was way off base with the scapular.

Dude, you've surpassed him! But then again, you at one time did wear the false scapular/idol.

260 posted on 08/20/2019 8:21:49 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: vladimir998

That phd you claim to have sure isn’t helping you any.


261 posted on 08/20/2019 8:32:27 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: vladimir998

See post # 258 ... you fail, yet again!


275 posted on 08/20/2019 10:50:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: vladimir998
Once again we see how easily anti-Catholics fall into error or heresy in their desperate bid to attack the Catholic faith.

Once again we see how Catholics have fallen into error or heresy in their desperate bid to state that ONLY the Catholic church has the correct take on this.


Why doesn't the Holy Spirit 'overshadow' the priest as he prepares the 'blood' and the 'body' of Jesus for consumption?

283 posted on 08/20/2019 2:30:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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