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1 posted on 08/13/2019 8:12:28 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 08/13/2019 8:13:33 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Harp considers himself a devout Catholic. He starts every morning with mediation and prayer and prays the Hail Mary at least once a day. He tries to attend Mass every Sunday. When he was in his 20s, he said he wanted to follow every rule he could. Now he questions how those rules bring him closer to God.

IMHO this is the danger that comes after centuries of preaching form over substance. People follow the correct rules, so they think they're OK.


3 posted on 08/13/2019 8:15:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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prays the Hail Mary

Do they mean prays the Rosary everyday?

4 posted on 08/13/2019 8:20:57 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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Is this where all of the employees of Oregon Catholic [sic] Press go to church?


5 posted on 08/13/2019 8:21:10 AM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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Had these people had the same passion for the welfare of their own posterity, we would be in a much different world right now.


6 posted on 08/13/2019 8:22:32 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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Somebody ought to tell these geriatric liberal kooks to “check their privilege.” See what kind of response that gets. LOL.


7 posted on 08/13/2019 8:23:45 AM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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. . .

Parishioners estimate about 50 fewer people typically attend Mass on Sundays – about half of what it was a year ago.

On this day, it was 24.

. . .

At this Sunday Mass, however, there was practically no one left to resist.

New faces were scattered across the church. Tom Hogan said many were either recruited or from the neighborhood.

The music was subdued, reverent. People held songbooks and sang. They didn’t clap. No one shook maracas or hit tambourines.

After the Nicene Creed, no one said the community commitment.

As Kuforiji began to consecrate the bread and wine, kneeling cushions creaked as worshippers pulled them down from the pews.

They knelt.

Tom Hogan and five others stood.


8 posted on 08/13/2019 8:56:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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How Ever will this story end, for that church and parish?

A radical and instant change for these snowflakes, from “run amok” and back to the actual Catholic faith will leave how many Catholic faithful left there, I wonder? Something to watch..

Catholic identity has been annihilated there and broadly, in all the Western nations.


9 posted on 08/13/2019 9:00:34 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Publik Ed/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming. Infinitum.)
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This lack of discipline is the Vlazny legacy. He did not push lefty Catholicism, but did have an ‘anything goes’ attitude. His female henchman chancellor was another story. She would fit right in with these women.

Archbishop Sample has gradually, gently been trying to help wayward parishes refine their behavior. He is the most respectful and fair-minded bishop you could imagine.


19 posted on 08/13/2019 10:44:08 AM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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I believe I went to the Saturday Mass at this church when I was visiting family in Vancouver, WA, about 5 years or so ago. I was struck by the fact that about 25 people were at Mass and I was one of the younger ones present. The church gave off a liberal vibe. It also gave me the impression then that it was a dying Parish. I do not recall any liturgical abuses while there but perhaps with so few parishioners present, they just wanted to attend Mass and go home. It was very sad to see the state of affairs there. I wish the new priest success in his efforts to return the Parish to the Church.


24 posted on 08/13/2019 3:18:07 PM PDT by dominic flandry
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“Harp considers himself a devout Catholic. He starts every morning with mediation and prayer and prays the Hail Mary at least once a day. He tries to attend Mass every Sunday. When he was in his 20s, he said he wanted to follow every rule he could. Now he questions how those rules bring him closer to God”

Not a single thing on that list gives a person salvation.

Not one.


26 posted on 08/13/2019 5:20:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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Changing back to Novus Ordo liturgy isn’t fully Catholic. Changing back to Tridentine would make them fully Catholic.


31 posted on 08/13/2019 5:51:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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One Hail Mary a day? I know Lutherans who say the whole Rosary...fifty Hail Marys plus three at the beginning. Wow! That Harp is some great Catholic. (Not!)


49 posted on 08/13/2019 6:48:35 PM PDT by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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I attend a Latin Mass parish on Sunday. It's an hour drive away. Every Sunday it's packed. Lots of young couples and children, as well as us old fogies. Excellent choir. Well-attended coffee & donuts after Mass. Lots of friendly people. Worth the drive to get there.
89 posted on 08/14/2019 11:21:13 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/mary-is-the-antidote-to-anti-feminine-madness

These type of protestors need to fall on their knees and ask Mary for humility.

Fyi for non-caths, this article explains a bit about why we reverence the Blessed Mother. It is not argumentative, just FYI.


91 posted on 08/15/2019 11:36:11 AM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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