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Why the Rapture isn’t Biblical… And Why it Matters
Patheos ^ | June 4, 2014 | Kurt Williams

Posted on 07/23/2019 5:26:09 AM PDT by Cronos

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This is correct. The book of the Apocalypse completes what Jesus said "THIS generation" will see the destruction of Jerusalem.
1 posted on 07/23/2019 5:26:09 AM PDT by Cronos
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The key is to be ready no matter if the Rapture does or does not happen.


2 posted on 07/23/2019 5:29:47 AM PDT by ealgeone
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I’ve always interpreted when Christ said that one will be taken and the other left as a cautionary note that not one of us knows which of us is really saved. The best person we can think of may have sins only known to them that will keep them out of heaven.


3 posted on 07/23/2019 5:30:16 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Cronos

Thank-you for this needed instructions.


4 posted on 07/23/2019 5:35:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Cronos

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5 posted on 07/23/2019 5:35:59 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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To: Jonty30

I have seen it as when God calls us home via dying.


6 posted on 07/23/2019 5:37:36 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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It is clear that major and minor prophets continually refer to the second coming, the hope of Israel, occurring for the remnant of Israel and thereby all Israel shall be saved Romans 11. The Lord is described specifically as returning to the Mount of Olives( as I write this I’m within walking distance of that very location) where he will set up his Millennial Kingdom to rule and Reign for a thousand years. Now if people want to refer to the Rapture as his prophesied second coming for the Remnant remnant of Israel, so be it. Book chapter and verse available upon request


7 posted on 07/23/2019 5:50:36 AM PDT by Maranatha7757
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The more I read and study the Bible and pray, I’ve come to a “theory” that I can best describe in an analogy:

In the world of art, there is a practice where a painting is covered over in white, and a new painting is applied. And a current painting may have several paintings under it. One can, with the right process, peal back the painting to see the paintings under it. In fact, I believe that some greats have been discovered that way.

So, when the bible talks of “the whole earth”, it is really referring to the SURFACE of the earth. And it was destroyed in the great flood and will be destroyed before the new Jerusalem comes in for a soft landing. But what about before that?

I propose, that as we peal back the “layers” of the surface of the earth, we find Neandertal, we find Dinosaurs, we find ancient civilizations, etc.

In fact, the bible really doesn’t speak of “forever”. There is no Greek word for it. It speaks of “ages”. I can only imagine after this “surface” is destroyed, that there will be age after age after age. But here’s the kicker - there may be age after age after age BEFORE genesis 1.2 After all, it says “in the beginning”. It begs the question, “The beginning of what?”

I submit that it aligns with the teaching of the bible to answer the question with this: “The beginning of this particular set of ages.”

There is so much more going on than we could possibly imagine, and even what we DO know about our reality is far beyond what the writers of the Bible could comprehend.

Christianity is not for the weak of heart and mind.


8 posted on 07/23/2019 5:53:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: ealgeone

The key is to be ready no matter if the Rapture does or does not happen.


I agree. I have to admit, though, a favorite bumper sticker is this one: “Jesus is coming. Look busy!”

Thing is, if you have received His free gift, you ARE ready. The rest is just icing.


9 posted on 07/23/2019 5:55:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Maranatha7757

You’re there? What’s it like?


10 posted on 07/23/2019 5:55:08 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: ealgeone

There is no such thing as the Rapture


11 posted on 07/23/2019 5:58:51 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Jonty30

The best person we can think of may have sins only known to them that will keep them out of heaven.


Well, if they believe, no amount of sin will keep them out. And if they don’t believe, no amount of lack of sin will get them in.

If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames. 1 Cor 3:14,15

Avoiding or succumbing may not impact salvation, but it will affect your reward in the next age.


12 posted on 07/23/2019 6:00:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Matthew 24 is specifically about the destruction of the 2nd temple, not about the Judgement day
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. The Day and Hour Unknown 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
This is specifically that some will die in the seige and destruction of Jerusalem in 69-70 AD
13 posted on 07/23/2019 6:01:11 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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Belief in the Rapture is closely associated with people who think they know exactly when.

Not knowing the day or the hour isn't just God being mysterious again. You really aren't supposed to know.

14 posted on 07/23/2019 6:01:59 AM PDT by Salman (The Democrat agenda in one word -- revenge.)
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To: Cronos

Sloppy.


15 posted on 07/23/2019 6:02:54 AM PDT by lurk
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Your own personal rapture is when you die.

Unless you are alive at the time of (either/or) the Second Coming or the Rapture, those are immaterial to you personally.

Ergo, don’t worry about it, and keep doing the good work.


16 posted on 07/23/2019 6:08:23 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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17 posted on 07/23/2019 6:12:21 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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“we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.“

I’ll meet the Lord in the air - caught up to be with Him forever.

If someone else rejects God’s plan, it’s on them...

Unless you stand too close to me when it happens.

I intend to grab a sinner in each hand when He catches me up.


18 posted on 07/23/2019 6:14:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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"There is no such thing as the Rapture"

Oh, I believe there is but it happens at the one time second coming of Christ. The parousia.

19 posted on 07/23/2019 6:15:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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>>> Christ will return to resurrect, to purge, to heal, and to establish the eternal kingdom of God on this earth.

lol... you believe Jesus will resurrect, but you do not believe He will rapture?

The rapture IS the resurrection... the resurrection of the Body of Christ.

and btw... “Rapture” comes from “Rapturo” meaning to be “caught up or snatched away unexpectedly... FOUND in the Latin translation of the bible (one of the earliest translations which was not widely used)

WE (the body of Christ) are NOT appointed unto wrath.

The tribulation period is ALL ABOUT God’s wrath upon the earth.... and the restoration of Israel to the true Messiah.


20 posted on 07/23/2019 6:22:12 AM PDT by Safrguns
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