Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
Who was the mother of the Messiah?
ISRAEL, the woman with twelve stars in her crown!
Have you missed the meaning completely? Is the Mary of Catholicism going to come back to earth and be protected int he wilderness for 3 1/2 years?
The Rapture of the One True Church , the Bride of Christ, leaves the Israelites to evangelise the world since they know the exact day and hour Messiah will return to set foot upon the Mount of Olives. For the first half of the Tribulation it is the awakened JEWS who are evangelizing, not Rome. The dragon becomes furious with The Jews who are contradicting his lies. A number gets transferred to Heaven in such great count that John could not number them (Her ‘other children’). The waters from satan’s mouth refers to the ‘sea of humanity; he sends to try and annihilate THE JEWS still alive and the converts SHE is raising to The Lord Christ!
not that she had any other genetic or uterine children, but that she is the spiritual mother of "those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus." Revelation 12:17 The first of these can be seen as John (who wrote Revelation) who was given her as her son, at Calvary.
Nothing in Scripture says Mary is anyone's spiritual mother.
Revelation 12:17 is about Israel.
unfortunately I don’t think we will ever get our catholic friends to stop seeing Mary in everything.... they think everything in scripture pertains to mary...
I am not a betting person, but if I were,I I would you dollars to donuts that you can't find anyone in the first 1.6 millennia of Christianity who would deny that the woman in Rev.12 is the mother of the Messiah, wno would rule the nations an iron rod (the phrase "with an iron rod" is used in Psalm 2:9, Revelation 2:27, Revelation 12:5, and Revelation 19:15, and it always identifies the Messiah) --- and that the Messiah is Jesus son of Mary.
This has at least two interpretations: literal, (Jesus’ concern for his mother who would otherwise be left chhlesss, without support); and symbolic, in the light of the Cana episode in Jn 2 (the presence of the mother of Jesus, the address 'Woman,' and the mention of His 'hour') Mary (who is also a symbol of the church) is given a role as the mother of the faithful.
Really?
Mrs. D....you've cited Scripture to support your claims.
I've seen how Rome has cited Scripture to try and support its claims.
I again cite the Catholic Encyclopedia online in regards to the Immaculate Conception.....to put it in clearer terms: it ain't in there.
Same will go with the rest of RC claims to attempt to find Mary in the OT. it ain't in there.
Sadly, you are correct.
I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley...
“This has at least two interpretations: literal, (Jesus’ concern for his mother who would otherwise be left chhlesss, without support); and symbolic, in the light of the Cana episode in Jn 2 (the presence of the mother of Jesus, the address ‘Woman,’ and the mention of His ‘hour’) Mary (who is also a symbol of the church) is given a role as the mother of the faithful.”
There is one interpretation, based on the words the Holy Spirit inspired.
Mary was never “given a role as mother of The faithful” anywhere in Scripture.
Nor is Mary a symbol of the church anywhere in Scripture.
Since this is not in Scripture, who tells you this stuff?
Since it’s not in Scripture, why would you believe it??
Umm.....no.
And this is not Mary.
There is nothing pointing to Mary in this letter.
Nothing.
Again, you're handling of Scripture is abysmal.
To allow the "understanding" you're advancing regarding who the chapter is talking about defies a sound Biblical understanding.
Revelation 12.
No, you're not getting it.
Scripture does not bear out your misinterpretation of those passages you attribute to Mary.
This would not be needed if your 'traditions' were not dissolving before our eyes.
And the women in Revelation 12 cried out in PAIN with child bearing.
Something the RC fantasies about her say didn't happen.
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