Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
Of course, you are right. 😁😆 Hey, now it’s almost 1:30 AM. Later bro.
You are actually more ignorant than I expected. Read the Bible. Read Luke’ s Gospel then the acts of the Apostles. You will discover your stupid errors, like telling us Paul never met Jesus. HINT: road to Damascus event and Paul’s testimony of being taught by Jesus and the Apostles.
Luke says in the first chapter he is compiling testimony of others from memory. Timothy was Paul’s companion, Paul wasn’t a follower till after Jesus death. James and Jude were relatives, but not believers till after his death. Probably more I’m going from memory. Look it up it isn’t difficult
Are you under the mistaken notion the Timothy wrote any of the Bible we have?
As compassion, I didn’t ask you which parts of the New Testament Timothy wrote.
Right. I was just thinking in my mind ones that we knew never met him, notably Timothy and Barnabas popped in my head. The point is more than one never witnessed his teaching
The LORD Christ said “I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by Me.” John 14:6
...if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 1 John 2:1
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As do the Catholics.
And the Eastern Orthodox believe:
The irony is you've posted absolutely no sources. I'll be happy to post sources for what the Catholic Church believes; what do you want?
I’ve read your Catechism and Catholic theology. The people I’m pinging were raised Catholic and know what they were taught by your Catholic priests and teachers.
Good for you, but reading it and understanding it are different things. Most of the former Catholics posting on FR have demonstrated that they don't know much about Catholic doctrine. But I can't help it if you want to use the ill-informed as your experts on Catholicism.
Don’t whine at me that I don’t couch Rome’s accursed perversion of the Gospel in soothing terms.
Don't take refutation of your distorted views as whining.
I believe it was you trying to sell us on UFOs.
Fatime as a xisit (s) from the Mother of Jesus is a fabulous Catholic LIE.
Sounds like you're better off sticking with the UFO conspiracies. Are you into the secret Bible codes, too?
Your logic is flawed. A large portion of the Old Testament is written by many who never met God. In fact, apart from Moses and Elijah who saw God's back, no one ever saw God. That doesn't mean they didn't write down what was told to them under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit nor would any true believer consider what they wrote unreliable.
I'm not sure how you arrived at what is "reliable" protestant standards or "oral tradition". 2/3 of the NT was written by Paul and Luke. Paul penned letters to the various church on various topics who, btw, did see Jesus at various times. Luke wrote historical documents (The Gospel According to Luke and Acts) based upon eye witness accounts of the events and certainly able to be verified and confirmed by those around him. In fact, Luke wrote more of the New Testament than any other author if memory serves me correctly. These are not "oral tradition". John, James, Peter, and the rest were penned for various reasons. All were written and are considered inspired just as the Old Testament is inspired.
Really??? Paul wrote the church epistles...Where'd he get that information???
There re photos of the disc. You deny that because you must, in order to swallow the great lies regarding the events at Fatima. You are feasting on fables while your soul dies. Don’t take the mark which will be commanded to you ... soon.
These French War of Religion themed hreads are like South bashing threads here
Both sides at times rather testy and ad hominem
Catholic chauvinism on display frequently ....it happened to me yet again two days ago here courtesy EbbTide in spite of the fact I was being approving of Catholic history against Islam etc
Usual freeper nastiness
And yes non Catholics who often seem to be ex Catholics attack Rome
I simply know any Baptists or Presbyterians or Pentecostals or methodists where I live who hate Catholics
Nor did I grow up with Catholics in my own extended family and friends who loathed my Southern Baptist denominational Faith
We do find the Mary thing and Pope tradition odd admittedly
But personally if an individual prefers Catholicism so what and same for other Christian sects
Here it’s like a war and you’re a brigadier at a minimum Daniel...
Is this a northern thing?
Actually, I'm feasting on a nice smoked NY strip steak right now. Enjoy your UFO conspiracies, and I hope you're successful in solving all your secret Bible codes.
And in fact you ARE doing satan’s work when you create confusion in the midst of folks sharing the Gospel ogf Grace. Your ignorance is profound, but you can fix that by reading the Bible with an attitude that God is the author by writing through men. Jesus told His Disciples that HE would send the Holy Spirit to aid them in remembering ALL that He taught. When Jesus spoke to the crowds, was that Traditions in action, was Jesus spreading ‘traditions’? Jesus is God With Us, so when He taught crowds or His closest disciples or the authors of the various letters of the New Testament, GOD is the author. Accept that and read His Word to be fed Truth directly from The Source.
I pointed to the actual photographs taken at Fatima that big day. Those photos show a disc. The eyewitness accounts suppressed by the Catholic Org tell of things which disprove the fables. You could actually look these things up but you prefer the lies. Your pallet is tuned to fables from your Org.
You want to believe fables and starve your soul to spiritual death? God will let you continue ...
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