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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: jesus; mary
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To: ealgeone

AMEN! And how about the statues of Mary that they have in churches that they kneel before and worship her? I guess the 2nd Commandment (1st Commandment in the Catholic church)means nothing to them either.


541 posted on 06/18/2019 9:57:32 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: af_vet_1981
Even a Samaritan can inherit eternal life when he is good.

Oh?

The words of Jesus said: "He that shewed mercy on him."


Why is it SO hard for Catholics to get the actual wording correct?

542 posted on 06/18/2019 9:58:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Well; you are acting like Pee Wee

No, I'm just responding in kind.

543 posted on 06/18/2019 9:59:03 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: Elsie

Thank you, dear one!


544 posted on 06/18/2019 10:01:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, anything praiseworthy ---keep thinking about these things)
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To: Elsie
Let the spin continue...

No spin. Just fact.

545 posted on 06/18/2019 10:01:24 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: Elsie
as pertaining to the avian SHOO bird...

As opposed to the non-avian SHOO bird?

546 posted on 06/18/2019 10:03:34 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: Al Hitan

I don't believe you reposted my reply.

Perhaps your seeing eye dog was taking a nap...


To: Al Hitan
... my time being too precious to waste on your projects.

My Projects?

YOU made the claim (I just saw someone use this phrase) that there existed a "lengthy list".

And, that you knew of no one that had the time to post it for us.


I don't know who has the time to compile that lengthy list.
417 posted on ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2019‎ ‎10‎:‎07‎:‎59‎ ‎PM by Al Hitan
 
So; are we (lurkers included) to assume that there will be NO list forthcoming from the Catholic apologists?

479 posted on ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2019‎ ‎11‎:‎09‎:‎27‎ ‎PM by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

547 posted on 06/18/2019 10:05:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan

You do a REAL good ELIZA impersonation; too.


548 posted on 06/18/2019 10:06:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Perhaps your seeing eye dog was taking a nap...

Pay attention. That's what I'm telling you - I didn't say that.

549 posted on 06/18/2019 10:08:27 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: Elsie
You do a REAL good ELIZA impersonation; too.

Interesting. I'm not trying to impersonate you.

550 posted on 06/18/2019 10:10:07 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: CharlesOConnell
#551

Look what you started!

551 posted on 06/18/2019 10:36:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, anything praiseworthy ---keep thinking about these things)
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To: af_vet_1981

Work work work, trying to merit eternal life ... you miss the lesson Jesus is teaching TO A JEW UNDER THE COVENANT OF THE LAW, so you apply it to your pride-filled religion.


552 posted on 06/18/2019 10:40:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I beat you by 537 posts! Haha. See my post 14.


553 posted on 06/18/2019 11:04:32 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Al Hitan

then call the cops because SOMEONE at your end sure typed it!


554 posted on 06/18/2019 11:13:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
then call the cops because SOMEONE at your end sure typed it!

You seem to be having a difficult time understanding, so I'll explain it to you in detail.

Here is what you claimed I said: "YOU made the claim (I just saw someone use this phrase) that there existed a "lengthy list".

Here is what I actually said: "I don't know who has the time to compile that lengthy list" in response to you saying "assume that there will be NO list forthcoming".

I didn't say there "existed a "lengthy list" but that one would have to be "compiled". Pay more attention and stop attributing quotes to me that I didn't make.

555 posted on 06/18/2019 11:31:16 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: Al Hitan

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556 posted on 06/18/2019 11:33:33 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
X

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557 posted on 06/18/2019 11:37:15 AM PDT by Al Hitan (.)
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To: metmom
What Catholics wholesale fail to realize is what exactly it is that puts believers in communion with each other. It’s not church affiliation, nor is it adherence to doctrinal positions

The essential bond experienced btwn spiritual born again believers is fundamentally based upon a shared scriptural conversion with its profound basic changes in heart and life, yet which itself is due to believing a basic salvific doctrine (the gospel of the grace of God). And which results in esteeming Scripture as the wholly inspired and reliable word of God, and commitment to basic salvific doctrines. Thus evangelicals are the main market for study Bibles, and the one major group most contending against cults.

However, at the same time most realize that there is much that allows for varying degrees of disagreement, and thus what church you belong to is not the basis for fellowship - though they indicates how deep our unity may be - but it is a shared Truth-based relationship with the risen Lord Jesus that changed them. Born again believers can thus realize a wonderful essential "unity of the Spirit" even upon meeting, which transcends "tribal" differences, which is also manifest in the many meetings and non-denom evangelical para-church orgs in which they worship and work together.

Yet at the same time. because Scripture and faith are taken seriously, we can also disagree on many things in a matter of minutes. Yet usually such are not to the degree that we must lose our essential unity.

God is far more interested in the matters of the heart than He is in the doctrinal purity that Catholicism hyper-emphasizes so much. It’s sharing a common salvation that is found by faith in Christ.

Actually it is Catholicism that is far from being doctrine-intensive, except for the traditionalists, but which, while spuriously arguing as if Catholicism was unified, actually cause division by making the validity of so much modern RC teaching subject to their interpretation/judgment of what historical Catholic teaching is. And too often they are correct, yet which still does not make distinctive Catholic teachings scriptural.

558 posted on 06/18/2019 11:39:55 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: FourtySeven

Guess I’m -— uh -— a little slow....


559 posted on 06/18/2019 12:41:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Genius is of small use to a woman who does not know how to do her hair." - Edith Wharton)
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To: CharlesOConnell

I prefer to see God as the Ocean, and Jesus is the yacht that we ride to heaven, and Mary is the dinghy that shuttles us from shore.


560 posted on 06/18/2019 12:42:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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