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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: jesus; mary
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To: Luircin

They can’t.

The contradictions aboud in Catholicism.

They take up both sides of the issue, which makes it convenient for them, cause whatever a non-Catholics says, they can declare *You’re wrong!*, *You’re ignorant about Catholicism*, *Don’t tell us what we believe.*

Very convenient and we’ve seen it time and again.


501 posted on 06/18/2019 4:18:49 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Al Hitan
I can't help what you imagine.

True; but it appears you cannot even help yourself from ignoring Jesus' plain command:

Call no man father.

502 posted on 06/18/2019 4:24:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
That’s why I had to unlearn all my cult speak words.

How can one be Master like that?

503 posted on 06/18/2019 4:25:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
Now you're making things up.

I re-posted your reply.

Your obtuseness is plain for all to see.

504 posted on 06/18/2019 4:26:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
You seem to be bold enough to state your opinion about what things are or not; but then what has ROME called them?

You tell me.

YOU said they were NOT the Rules of Worship; therefore the jury awaits what they are; from either Rome or you.

Will you choose to play like a mature adult or PeeWee Herman?

505 posted on 06/18/2019 4:29:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

I never knew there was a difference between sheep and goats until we got our 4 little darlings 11 years ago.

I assumed that goats would eat grass like I’d seen countless sheep do.

My assumptions were wrong.

Sheep; as we know; primarily bend down to eat - thus being known as grazers, while goats tend to raise up to eat - thus being browsers.

If they manage to drop a ‘treat’ on the ground in their haste to consume it; it will lay there until they REALLY get tired of whatever else there is to eat.


506 posted on 06/18/2019 4:36:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
Isn’t that the stuff they give you, to knock you out, if you need surgery?

Well; according to Mark Twain...

507 posted on 06/18/2019 4:37:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
We're OK then. With the exception, you think, that we say we are still in Communion with the Saints, both those on this earth and those in heaven. But Jesus told us they are not dead, since the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God, not of the dead, but of the living. And Paul said all the members of the Body need each other.

It does help if you have the unabridged Bible.

But anyway, "witnessing". Thanks.

508 posted on 06/18/2019 4:48:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: All

There are some in this thread that must think of themselves as a Kilkenny cat or maybe even a Viking Kitty or perhaps a revived Hobbs, but; in practice; are more like a Garfield.


509 posted on 06/18/2019 4:57:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It does help if you have the unabridged Bible.

I'd suspect so!

One can find even MORE snippets to bind together in the manner of so many other Calvinosaurus'!

510 posted on 06/18/2019 4:59:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

(...saurusi?)


511 posted on 06/18/2019 4:59:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We're OK then. With the exception, you think, that we say we are still in Communion with the Saints, both those on this earth and those in heaven.

We cannot talk with those departed believers in Heaven nor they us....much as you may want that to happen.

But Jesus told us they are not dead, since the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God, not of the dead, but of the living.

This is correct...except you don't see people praying to Abraham, Isaac or Jacob.

And Paul said all the members of the Body need each other.

The body of believers here on earth.

It does help if you have the unabridged Bible.

I have the complete set of Scripture the early church was using.

512 posted on 06/18/2019 5:02:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Elsie

My research indicates that is not a thing.


513 posted on 06/18/2019 5:04:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Genius is of small use to a woman who does not know how to do her hair." - Edith Wharton)
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To: Elsie
That’s why I had to unlearn all my cult speak words.

How can one be Master like that?

It took months of reading the Bible, to get the false Catholic doctrines out of my system. My catholic thinking was so screwed up, I even believed in evolution, and I have no clue how I managed to get that into my mind. Now, I try to lead people out of the Catholic Church. It’s a beautiful thing. 👍

514 posted on 06/18/2019 5:52:33 AM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: ealgeone
We cannot talk with those departed believers in Heaven nor they us....much as you may want that to happen.

I used to do that when I was a catholic, but I believe that would otherwise be called necromancy. It’s a no no. 😁🤣

515 posted on 06/18/2019 5:59:05 AM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Elsie
True; but it appears you cannot even help yourself from ignoring Jesus' plain command:

Show me where I ignored Jesus's plain command.

516 posted on 06/18/2019 7:14:30 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Precisely!


517 posted on 06/18/2019 7:15:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan

Sorry Pee Wee.

Tell it to your FATHER at confession time.


518 posted on 06/18/2019 7:16:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
YOU said they were NOT the Rules of Worship

True, because they're not about worship.

therefore the jury awaits what they are; from either Rome or you.

If you have a preconceived idea, just tells instead of playing games.

Will you choose to play like a mature adult or PeeWee Herman?

Interesting, because when responding I was thinking: what kind of response does Pee Wee Herman want?

519 posted on 06/18/2019 7:18:23 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Elsie
I re-posted your reply. Your obtuseness is plain for all to see.

I don't believe you did. Who's being obtuse now?

520 posted on 06/18/2019 7:20:11 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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