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Pat Robertson: Alabama abortion ban has ‘gone too far’
Syracuse.com via Associated Press ^ | 05/16/2019

Posted on 05/16/2019 8:43:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 05/16/2019 8:58:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: SeekAndFind

Robertson is concerned with forcing the mother, the victim of a forced pregnancy ( rape or incest ), to raise a child she never wanted in the first place. I think that was his rationale for speaking out.


I’m sure it is. But it misses the point of the pro-life stance - that the fetus is a human being. You can’t kill it because someone foisted it on you. You can always give it up for adoption. There are plenty of takers.

It’s also a red herring. If you allow abortion in cases of rape, suddenly the number of “reported” rapes will go up significantly, if you get my drift.


21 posted on 05/16/2019 9:10:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: srmorton

RE: He said, as he does frequently, that Roe vs. Wade was bad law and needs to be overturned.

OK, if it is bad law, how is it to be overturned? He does not say. Isn’t what Alabama did one way of overturning it? That is — A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE?

That is what the Supreme Court should have decided in Roe v. Wade instead of imposing abortion legalization on the whole country.

Robertson is very vague here. All he has done is provided ammo for the liberals with his remark.


22 posted on 05/16/2019 9:14:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t get your hopes up.
The inflexibility of the law almost guarantees it will be overturned.
Even murders have more flexibility than this law does.


23 posted on 05/16/2019 9:15:08 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: cuban leaf

Thank you!!!


24 posted on 05/16/2019 9:17:38 AM PDT by dsat4life (Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty . . . who was, who is, and is to come!! Amen!)
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To: cuban leaf

“for the life of the mother”

Apparently today these cases are negligible anyway, to where it becomes a needless distraction to the argument, or a gateway to defeating the whole pro-life argument.


25 posted on 05/16/2019 9:34:22 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Apparently today these cases are negligible anyway, to where it becomes a needless distraction to the argument, or a gateway to defeating the whole pro-life argument.


Yep. Red herrings abound for these people.


26 posted on 05/16/2019 9:39:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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It could be dangerous to the mothers mental health, or a disaster to her financial health but very rarely is pregnancy dangerous to the mother’s physical health. The doctor can always state this as a way to make it legal.


27 posted on 05/16/2019 9:41:41 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: SeekAndFind

So Pat believes the baby is guilty with rape or incest.


28 posted on 05/16/2019 9:42:21 AM PDT by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind

The cheese slid off his cracker years ago.


29 posted on 05/16/2019 9:43:18 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: SeekAndFind
>> Robertson is concerned with forcing the mother, the victim of a forced pregnancy ( rape or incest ), to raise a child she never wanted in the first place <<

Since when were all incest pregnancies "forced"? I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of them are consensual. This whole "incest" exception is a red herring.

30 posted on 05/16/2019 9:46:17 AM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He must need to expand his donor base.


31 posted on 05/16/2019 9:46:29 AM PDT by Reily
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To: SeekAndFind

There is this thing, it’s called “adoption.”


32 posted on 05/16/2019 9:47:43 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

What I don’t understand is why mothers who have abortions aren’t being charged with murder and given the death penalty.


33 posted on 05/16/2019 9:52:11 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glad to know he has some rules when baby murder is okay and when its not.


34 posted on 05/16/2019 10:15:52 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: cuban leaf

A fetus is never an unjust aggressor. A fetus is never “no longer innocent”.


35 posted on 05/16/2019 10:25:51 AM PDT by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: dfwgator

Bingo. And Pat should realize that. If he has dementia that doesn’t allow him to realize that, he shouldn’t be on the air spouting stuff.


36 posted on 05/16/2019 10:28:11 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: MDLION

A fetus is never an unjust aggressor. A fetus is never “no longer innocent”.


I agree in principle. I’m talking more in the context of situations where a human life may be sacrificed for others - and not voluntarily.

But, honestly, the main core of my comment is that the reason it is sacrificed for the mother is that if it is not, they BOTH die. That’s all. And that kind of decision is prudent. It’s better than taking some sort of religiously fanatical view that when it is obvious that the baby will die if you abort it, but if you don’t the baby and mother will both die - you still can’t abort it.


37 posted on 05/16/2019 10:31:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

My problem with this bill is that it is more likely to be swatted down by the Supreme Court - thus SUPPORTING abortion - than a more moderate bill.

There are 4 justices who will absolutely vote for any & all abortions being legal. Roberts & Kavanaugh will seek compromise on a moderate bill but who are very likely to deny a more extreme bill. The only justice I trust I Thomas.

The Constitution is very straightforward on abortion. It isn’t mentioned and therefor is an issue for states to decide. But there is only on justice who I trust to vote that way.


38 posted on 05/16/2019 10:35:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Robertson, I declare thee RINO!

— rhinohunter


39 posted on 05/16/2019 10:36:36 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Dear Mr. Trump: I'm still not tired of winning)
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To: Mr Rogers
The only justice I trust I Thomas.

Agreed.

If the AL law were to come before the SC today, these are the odds I would give on each Justice allowing it to stand:

Thomas 100%

Alito 70%

Gorsuch 50%

Kavanaugh 25%

Roberts 10%

Breyer 0%

Sotomayor 0%

Kagan 0%

RBG 0%

40 posted on 05/16/2019 10:48:58 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Dear Mr. Trump: I'm still not tired of winning)
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