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Are Mormons Christians? (Additional Footage) - Tim Conway
Grace Community Church ^ | 6/8/2013 | Tim Conway

Posted on 04/28/2019 2:51:32 PM PDT by OddLane

An exploration of the doctrine of the Church of Latter day Saints by Tim Conway.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: mormonism
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To: Jamestown1630
And I apologize if I misunderstood your ‘Of course it is’ as sarcasm.

No worries... but I note that you have class to apologize.

I meant it as straight up truth. Not sarcasm. Hard to tell with just typing and no facial expressions 😀

341 posted on 04/29/2019 4:33:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MHGinTN
Was the god of Mormonism a man who had to earn godhood? Answer honestly according to the dogma of your religion.

It seems some mormons have no idea what mormonism teaches, nor what their prophets stated... despite their education.

342 posted on 04/29/2019 4:34:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MHGinTN

Answer Honestly, is your view of Christ an equal third of a Diety with a multiple Identity Crises?

Is it possible that with councelling and drug intervention that your view of God, Christ and the Holy Ghost be cured?

I believe in God the Eternal Father and in his only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ.

....not some mystery mist that is three but not really three, one but not really one, sometimes one but at the same time three, sometimes three but at the same time one ...

There is a theory in our Church that God is a glorified man .... frankly in my opinion, a lot more believable than the shape-shifting mistery that you believe in.


343 posted on 04/29/2019 4:53:26 PM PDT by teppe
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To: Degaston

Your story has no bearing as I could likely find many LDS members who were once members or even pastors of your church who left it to become LDS.

Lehi’s decendents were killed in a battle in 420 AD, as told in the Book of Mormon.

However, The city of NHM, Bountiful, the Valley of Laman have been found in Arabia, just as described in the Book of Mormon. And already Mesoamerican history is being rewritten by archeologists closer and closer to the Book of Mormon all of the time.

So, it is obviously not as much of a hoax as you had thought.

It’s pretty rich of you calling a believer in Christ a non-christian, just because I don’t believe the same as you.

Christ sayed ‘Judge not that ye be not judged, for with that same judgement that ye judge ye shall also be judged’.

I ask you to consider that only Christ can say who is acceptable to him and who is not.

I think it is very hypocritical and un-christian of you to usurp his authority and judgement.


344 posted on 04/29/2019 5:04:25 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

“I believe in God the Eternal Father and in his only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ“

Needs clarification

“I believe in God the Eternal Father who used to be a man who became god (according to the prophets of my church) and in his only Begotten Son, who was not eternal, but a created spirit being, like any other man or demon, Jesus Christ. I also believe in a Heavenly Mother, who has celestial sex with God The Father, and pops out millions of spiritual children.”


345 posted on 04/29/2019 5:06:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe

“Christ sayed ‘Judge not that ye be not judged, for with that same judgement that ye judge ye shall also be judged’.

Christ also said to judge with a righteous judgement.

Here we are.


346 posted on 04/29/2019 5:08:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe

“I think it is very hypocritical and un-christian of you to usurp his authority and judgement.”

Did you know that “making it personal” is a violation of the Religion Forum Rules?

I note you keep doing this in your posts...


347 posted on 04/29/2019 5:09:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

This is a very ‘thin’ medium. Sometimes we understand one another very poorly.


348 posted on 04/29/2019 5:21:46 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

Agree 100%.

Good to take it all with a grain of salt and a thick skin.


349 posted on 04/29/2019 5:31:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yes.


350 posted on 04/29/2019 5:33:34 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: MHGinTN

We are all in God’s image. Do you like that one? Same thing. Come on . reflect on your hatred of good family people practicing their faith. There are millions of them. Why don’t you leave them alone. They have done nothing to you or your family. Muslims have!! Hate them.


351 posted on 04/29/2019 6:19:41 PM PDT by bingoplayer
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To: ravenwolf
it is a religion no different than any other religious institution,

Gee; Thanks!

352 posted on 04/29/2019 6:33:11 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: teppe; caww; aMorePerfectUnion
Seriously? The Revelations 22: 18-19 is for the book of Revelations solely, as it was not incorporated in the Bible until the 4th or 5th Century.

That's not exactly correct.

Revelation was considered part of the canon as early as 170 AD.

The principal question around Revelation was who was the author.

It was known to the early church as evidence of its inclusion in the Muratorian Canon.

Source: F.F. Bruce, The Canon of Scripture, p161.

353 posted on 04/29/2019 6:34:41 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: teppe
I think you just confirmed that you are not a Christian. Read the following carefully, there is a profound Physics lesson therein:

John 14:1 “Don’t let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me. 2There are many rooms in my Father’s house. If there weren’t, I wouldn’t have told you that I am going away to prepare a place for you, would I? 3And since I’m going away to prepare a place for you, I’ll come back again and welcome you into my presence, so that you may be where I am. 4You know where I am going, and you know the way.”

5Thomas asked him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you have known me, you will also know my Father. From now on you know him and have seen him.”

8Philip told him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will satisfy us.”

9“Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me?” Jesus asked him.The person who has seen me has seen the Father. So how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10You believe, don’t you, that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I don’t speak on my own. It is the Father who dwells in me and who carries out his work. 11Believe me, I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Otherwise, believe me because of what I’ve been doing.

354 posted on 04/29/2019 6:34:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: bingoplayer

You spewed, “. Come on . reflect on your hatred of good family people practicing their faith.” With that you revealed the spirit that is within you. Get thee behind me satan, you will not deter me from proclaiming the Gospel of Grace when the religion of lies is being presented. Live with it, little one.


355 posted on 04/29/2019 6:38:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Well since Catholics were the first Christians...

That is NOT what the Book; that Rome assembled so long ago; says:

Acts 11:19-26   (KJV)

19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch,

   preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

20 And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.

21 And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.

22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

23 Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.

24 For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord.

25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:

26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people.

  And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


356 posted on 04/29/2019 6:38:59 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: af_vet_1981
There is one holy catholic apostolic Church, from the days of the Messiah's Apostles unto this day.Why did the Eastern Orthodox split away from Rome?

WAY before Prots came along.


https://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/the-split-that-created-roman-catholics-and-eastern-orthodox-catholics/

357 posted on 04/29/2019 6:42:51 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: AppyPappy
The Bible says anyone who calls on the Name of the Lord shall be Saved.

Yes; that's an exact quote; but I feel that the MEANING of it (Dang! now I'm sounding like a Catholic!!) should be:

The Bible says anyone who calls on the Name of the Lord ONLY shall be Saved.

If ANYTHING gets added to what the Finished business of Christ was; then we are saying that Christ is somehow not adequate enough.

358 posted on 04/29/2019 6:46:13 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
When I chose the word essence, I did not refer to any creed.

But you MUST somehow speak about the great Mormon BoogeyMan!!

359 posted on 04/29/2019 6:47:44 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: miss marmelstein; ealgeone

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


360 posted on 04/29/2019 6:48:05 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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