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OSV.com ^ | 03-28-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/30/2019 8:12:59 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: boatbums

No, I just try to stay away from the dirty, filthy, disgusting humor (like Howard Stern, for instance).

821 posted on 04/04/2019 6:34:21 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

“If you had taken the time to look at, and explore the link that Salvation provided, you would have discovered over a thousand conversion stories documented there, and that itself is just the very tip of the iceberg.“

Eh.

Hundreds of millions in a South America alone.


822 posted on 04/04/2019 6:50:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Do you take that same approach to the Bible?   There are very few Christians mentioned in the Bible (relatively speaking), and does that somehow diminish the truth those very few people represented, (or even the numerical disparity of Christians compared to the number of non-Christians in the world those days)?   Or, do you simply choose to conveniently use a completely different standard when dealing with that minute number of those very few Christians documented in the New Testament?

823 posted on 04/04/2019 7:01:05 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

824 posted on 04/04/2019 7:07:22 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Songcraft
The Hidden Exodus - Catholics Becoming Protestants
825 posted on 04/04/2019 7:12:46 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Hundreds of millions in a South America alone.

Lots of them leave the Catholic Church in the Philippines 🇵🇭 too. I was at a Gideons meeting some time ago. There were about 30 people there. I asked one the Filipino men, how many of them were ex Catholics. He said he thought about half of them. It’s a beautiful thing, to see these people enjoy assurance of salvation, something I NEVER had when I was a catholic. 👍 I doubt you had any assurance either, at that time in your life.

826 posted on 04/04/2019 7:16:42 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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To: boatbums

LOL. Good one BB.


827 posted on 04/04/2019 7:19:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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To: Songcraft; Elsie

Eh. Your question conflates things that are not equal to avoid acknowledging (I’d guess) that Rome is bleeding members like crazy.

Elsie might be able to identify which specific form of disinformation that is...

I only wish that every member who leaves Rome would come to saving faith in Christ. Too many become atheists.

Heck, I wish every member of Rome would come to saving faith in Christ.


828 posted on 04/04/2019 7:20:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: boatbums

Nice article boatbums. Thanks for posting.

“One of three people who were raised Catholic no longer identifies as Catholic.”


829 posted on 04/04/2019 7:23:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17
“It’s a beautiful thing, to see these people enjoy assurance of salvation, something I NEVER had when I was a catholic.”

👊👍🏼

830 posted on 04/04/2019 7:24:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I only wish that every member who leaves Rome would come to saving faith in Christ. Too many become atheists.

I went to a catholic high school. At our last reunion, I figured about 50% or more, had left the Catholic Church. As far as I could tell, only 3 of us got born again. The rest of them just left. I don’t know for sure why, but many of those, were pro abortion and Hillary supporters.

831 posted on 04/04/2019 7:31:44 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You're getting confused there, aMorePerfectUnion.   My point is, counts mean absolutely nothing.   (You're the one who talked about the "handful of people" I posted, in your post #814.)   I posted just 12 people for a reason.   Remember, Jesus + 12 = 13.   Small number, big deal in this world.

What counts is the Truth, and the quality of the teaching, (as displayed in the Church built by Jesus Christ, which the gates of hell will not prevail against), not the quantity of adherents.   Those counts have varied all over the place (low-to-high) since the time of Jesus.

Right now, there are less than 1 billion Protestants in the world, and about 1.8 billion Muslims.   If numbers really mean that much to you, aMorePerfectUnion, you'd better get your butt down there, and join those Muslims, pronto!

832 posted on 04/04/2019 7:48:07 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

If you say so, if you say so.

We could use more Roman Catholics with a sense of humor on these threads.


833 posted on 04/04/2019 8:06:21 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: af_vet_1981

So you agree that faith is assurance of salvation and that we’re saved by grace through faith and not saved by works?

It’s what Scripture says after all.


834 posted on 04/04/2019 8:08:34 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Songcraft

“What counts is the Truth, and the quality of the teaching”

In regards to truth, Rome is like a huge John Deere tractor with every accessory, cruising up and down the field... but with no cutting blade - the Gospel of Grace..

The teaching is abysmal, the priests are poorly taught regarding Bible, and few listen to what Rome says. They watch what Rome does.

Rome officially sanctions gays in the ministry, gays in the Vatican, and has covered up sexual abuse against children under at least 4 popes.

Rome has little of the truth that matters, and what truth it has, is obscured with paganism.


835 posted on 04/04/2019 8:11:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Songcraft; Elsie; metmom; boatbums
My Post #614 was to your Post #610, in which (on the Atheists' Annual Day of Celebration of their shared mindset) you were attempting to reprove Elsie. In it, you specifically claimed that you were writing as a fool, and that Is why I took up that claim in my query to you, as follows:
So what is the import of the Matthew 25:31-46 quotation in your foolish note to Elsie?
My question here was to narrow down the portion of your scripture selection for the purpose of getting your explicit assumptions which I implicitly took to be on effect, judging the tone of your answer to Elsie. Specifically, what I wanted was a simple answer to each of the three aspects of the passage quoted, to see if your mind regarding it was the same as the mind of the Author quoted; and the aspects to which the nature of my putative ensuing response would address.

These critical aspects were, as stated:

o To whom was this passage addressed,
o about whom was it written, and
o what is the context in which the judgment takes place?
Now, my approach was to establish your point of view beyond the shadow of a doubt, so that my reply to you would be based on your claims, not on the questionable grounds of presuming to know what you were thinking as you wrote #610.

So now I have another question line that I want answered:

o On what basis was your Post #610 pulled?

o Did you ask the Moderator to pull it?

o If so, was it because in it you conferred the actions as a fool upon yourself, and wanted that blotted out?

o Or did another forum participant ask for its withdrawal, and why?

o Or, did the Moderator insist on its removal, and if so, why? There is too much mystery here, for by it I feel blocked from countering your implied (and wrong) argument that:

Songcraft: You say by your questions that you do not understand my post, but you call it foolish anyway. (In other words, you don't get it, but it must be foolish.)

Actually, I believe that I do understand quite well the topic you were talking about in Post #610 and in this Post #811, but you clearly do not. However, it will take a clear concise answer to my above queries to proceed on a reasonable basis. I think that it is very likely that your position fits that of the "natural" (ψυχικος psoo-kee-kawss) man, or at best a carnal (σαρκικοις sar-kee-kawss) man, and certainly not that of a spiritual (πνευματικοις pnoo-ma-tee-kawss) one.

So please help me out on this by clarifying your position regarding the selected passage. Eh?<>

836 posted on 04/04/2019 11:48:28 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Songcraft; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; metmom; Mark17; Elsie
Conversion and its manifestation of profession amd churchianity is not an eternal-destination-changing event.

Regeneration with its following confession of sole uncancellable ownership by the Savior through total trust in Him alone is, a matter which your lineup of characters does not seem to clearly indicate.

837 posted on 04/05/2019 12:02:43 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: NKP_Vet
I was “born again” when I was baptized...

I guess Jesus was born again when John baptized Him; too.


Act2 19:2-4

...and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?”
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
“Into what, then, were you baptized?” Paul asked. “The baptism of John,” they replied.
Paul explained: “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”


Though I now wonder what Jesus had to repent from??

838 posted on 04/05/2019 3:56:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GBA
If only we could remake Him into our own image, then He would be perfect!

I hear there is a certain group of believers that have done a REALLY good job of remaking His mother!!

839 posted on 04/05/2019 3:59:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Good one!

You spotted the excluded middle!


840 posted on 04/05/2019 4:02:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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