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Pope Francis Says Secret Archives On Holocaust-Era Pope Pius XII Will Be Opened Early
MSN/ Time ^ | 3/4/19 | Billy Perrigo

Posted on 03/04/2019 11:22:33 AM PST by Jaded

Edited on 03/04/2019 11:32:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Pope Francis announced Monday that the Vatican’s archives on controversial World War II-era pope Pius XII would be opened up eight years earlier than planned, in 2020, a move seen as an olive branch to Jews who have criticized the Vatican for not doing enough during the Holocaust.

“The church is not afraid of history,” Pope Francis said, announcing the move in a speech to members of the Vatican’s Secret Archives. “On the contrary, it loves it, and would like to love it even more, like it loves God.”


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antipope; holocaust; homosexualagenda; piusxii; popefrancis; romancatholicism; thejesuit
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Here we go again.
1 posted on 03/04/2019 11:22:33 AM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded

The idea is to fully Marx up the Catholic Church.


2 posted on 03/04/2019 11:25:04 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

They’re already there


3 posted on 03/04/2019 11:26:56 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Jaded

Anything to get away from the total incompetence of the current Pope and his communist and homosexual slant.


4 posted on 03/04/2019 11:28:30 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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To: Jaded

Jesuits are the end of the popery.


5 posted on 03/04/2019 11:28:53 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Jaded

“The church is not afraid of history,” Pope Francis said, announcing the move in a speech to members of the Vatican’s Secret Archives. “On the contrary, it loves it, and would like to love it even more, like it loves God.”

Um, no dog in this fight, but in order to love god
Wouldn’t you have to know god first?
His popeness sure doesn’t look like it to me.
Unless god of course wants the church destroyed...


6 posted on 03/04/2019 11:30:57 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jaded

If what I have read in the past is true Pope Pius the XII will be vindicated.


7 posted on 03/04/2019 11:32:10 AM PST by tiki
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To: Jaded

OPEN UP ALL THE DAMNED ARCHIVES!!!!

There is stuff in that archive that would BLOW EVERYONE’S MIND!!!!

Pope Jesuit the Worst doesn’t want any other country to have borders, has walls around vatican....

Think about all the crap they stored away in the vatican that could change history. There is 1800+ years of missing history in those archives. WE HAVE A RIGHT AS HUMANITY TO KNOW!


8 posted on 03/04/2019 11:32:20 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: laweeks

[ Jesuits are the end of the popery. ]

He should be called “Pope Jesuit the Worst”


9 posted on 03/04/2019 11:33:02 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Jaded
And the earth is flat.

I'm almost convinced this pope is as evil as Judas.

10 posted on 03/04/2019 11:35:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tiki

Maybe next there’ll be an investigation of FDR sending a shipload of Jewish refugees back to Europe and the deaths of many at the hands of the Nazis. Our holier-than-thou is holier than you holier-than-thou.


11 posted on 03/04/2019 11:42:10 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: GraceG
There is 1800+ years of missing history in those archives

The archives in question cover 1939-1958. Not sure how you get 1800+ years of missing history out of that.

12 posted on 03/04/2019 11:43:33 AM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Campion

No reason for the church to HAVE secret files. Anyway, more interesting is the deals they made with Mussolini and the money laundering they did at the Vatican bank. Yeah a few bad vatican types helped nazis flee after the war on vaticana issued passports.

But it would be very uncool to blame anyone there today for that shady past. Most religions would be shamed by their activities of 100+ years ago.

But none of them should keep it secret. Sunshine is still the best disinfectant.


13 posted on 03/04/2019 11:55:54 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Jaded

Deflection from the sex abuse scandals hitting the church these days?


14 posted on 03/04/2019 11:56:30 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Campion

[ There is 1800+ years of missing history in those archives

The archives in question cover 1939-1958. Not sure how you get 1800+ years of missing history out of that. ]

I’m talking ALL OF THEIR ARCHIVES!!! Not just the WW-II section.... THE ENTIRE DAMNED LIBERRY!


15 posted on 03/04/2019 12:01:06 PM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Jaded

I’m not a fan of Francis and he may have an alternate motive, but usually less secrecy and more transparency is a good thing.

Opening the Vatican records on this era may reveal some shortcomings, but it also may reveal that Pius was doing more to oppose Naziism/Facism and to protect its victims than has been previously revealed.


16 posted on 03/04/2019 12:01:27 PM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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More Jews survived the Holocaust in Rome/Italy than elsewhere in countries occupied by Germany.

The movie (with Gregory Peck) Scarlet Pimpernel is based on a true story of how the Vatican/Catholics/Italians saved Jews...

17 posted on 03/04/2019 12:07:44 PM PST by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher
Wrong movie!!!

It is the Scarlet and the Black 1983 movie with Gregory Peck. The movie is about Monsignor Hugh O'Flaherty - an Irish priest stationed at the Vatican...

18 posted on 03/04/2019 12:11:54 PM PST by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

It would be interesting to have a look at the Apostolic Bank archives and the case of Roberto Calvi who supposedly hanged himself off the Blackfriar’s Bridge in 1982. The Vatican bank was the main shareholder for Banco Ambrosiano, of which Calvi had been chairman.


19 posted on 03/04/2019 12:17:04 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t think you are being very fair to Judas. At least Judas realized his error and committed suicide.


20 posted on 03/04/2019 12:17:35 PM PST by BipolarBob (Dad, Send lawyers, guns and money.)
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