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To: boatbums

Well, boatbums, fist let me assure you that I never thought you were a man, based on your screen name.   (I must admit, however, that the thought has crossed my mind from time to time that you might be suffering from some kind of aberrant "multiple personality disorder", since you chose a screen mame that is plural, but, that's your business.)

Now, to address your other points, that's pretty weird, boatbums, that you think that is creepy to tell the truth about something.   I didn't say anything that was false, and I didn't say anything at all about Elsie being a homosexual.   That "homosexual" term came completely, 100% from your own mind, boatbums, so you might want to more closely examine your own strange thoughts, before you begin throwing despicably false stones at others.

I just pointed out the 100% honest truth that a male poster here uses a female screen name (Elsie).   Do you deny that simple truth, boatbums?   Do you have a problem with hearing the truth, boatbums?   Do you prefer to hide the truth, boatbums?

Do you have a problem with reading that Bible text, Deuteronomy 22:5, boatbums?   Does your Bible also contain the many texts that tell you (via St. Paul and others) that we Christians should admonish one another, when we think it is possibly needed, boatbums, as the Holy Spirit says that is the right thing to do?   Do you really believe those texts are the inspired Word of God, boatbums?

Quite frankly, I believe YOU should apologize, boatbums, for falsely claiming that I was implying Elsie was a homosexual, which is an utter, complete, bald-faced lie!   I implied no such thing.   That is all your own mind, boatbums.   I just used a text from the Holy Scriptures to warn Elsie about how God looks at men who falsely and deceptively pretend to be women.   Falsely pretending to be a woman, and being a homosexual, are two completely different things.   In fact, many transvestites are heterosexuals (just do a quick Google search on "heterosexual transvestites"), and it's likely that many men who prefer to use girly names are heterosexuals too.

The Bible talks about homosexuality in several other spots, but Deuteronomy 22:5 is not referring to homosexuality, but is referring specifically to men who pretend to be women, and declares that that kind of behavior "is an abomination to the Lord your God".   In the future, try to stick to the truth in your posts, boatbums.

304 posted on 01/12/2019 6:32:24 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Elsie

Since your name was mentioned in this post, I meant to ping you as well..
306 posted on 01/12/2019 6:39:35 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft
Sure...as soon as you stick to the RULES of the forum and stop making personal attacks on others! You're kinda new here so maybe you aren't very familiar with them. I copied this from the Religion Moderator's page to help you:

    Ad Hominems

    The main guideline to posting on the Religion Forum: ”Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.”

    Whereas posters may argue vigorously for and against beliefs on “open” Religion Forum threads it is never tolerable to use ad hominems in religious debate because they invariably lead to flame wars when the subject is one’s deeply held religious beliefs.

    For something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking to another Freeper, personally.

    "Protestants are heretics" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal. "Catholics worship Mary" is not making it personal. "You worship Mary" is making it personal. "Mormons worship many gods" is not making it personal. "You worship many gods" is making it personal.

    However, when a poster paints with a brush that accuses an entire religion of criminal behavior - his post will be pulled as flame bait. For example, posts that say "Protestants kill babies" or "Catholics molest children" or "Mormons kill non-Mormons" will be pulled. However, if the post is specific about a non-Freeper, I will not pull it. For example "Rev. Doe says abortion and infanticide are not sin" or "Father Doe was convicted for molesting those kids" or "Mormons killed non-Mormons at Mountain Meadows" would not be pulled.

    Statements formed as questions are rarely "making it personal." "Are you a heretic" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal.

    Forms of "making it personal" include mind reading, attributing motive, accusing another Freeper of telling a lie (because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive) - making the thread "about" individual Freeper(s), following a Freeper from thread to thread and badgering a Freeper over-and-again with the same question.

    The words "prevarication" "dishonesty" "slander" "deceit" "calumny" and "subterfuge" are synonymous with "lie" because they entail intent.

    Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" "inaccurate" "misstatement" do not attribute motive and are not "making it personal." Other words push the envelope of motive but are not synonymous with "lie" for purposes of modding the RF.

    However, they can be "making it personal" if applied to another Freeper, personally, in such a way the discussion becomes "about" the individual Freeper instead of the issues. Those words include "misrepresentation" "detraction" "disinformation" "distortion" "hyperbole" and "doublespeak."

    Another example, calling a group of Freepers "anti-Mormon" attributes motive to them as a group which is not technically "making it personal" - but saying that another Freeper, personally, is anti-Mormon instead of anti-MormonISM is an ad hominem. It is "making it personal."

    Another example, a poster may say on an “open” RF thread that a particular belief, diety, religious authority, etc. is "Satanic." But he must not say "You are Satanic." That would be "making it personal." The Bible is always a legitimate source on the Religion Forum, so a poster might quote the Bible where Jesus called Peter "Satan." If a post serves no debate purpose (flame bait or 'making it personal' by devious means) - it would be pulled. When in doubt, avoid the use of the pronoun "you" and Freeper's names - or put yourself in the other guy's shoes.


312 posted on 01/12/2019 8:27:22 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Songcraft
I just used a text from the Holy Scriptures to warn Elsie about how God looks at men who falsely and deceptively pretend to be women.

HMMMmmm… just WHERE; in the Book that Rome gave the world; is THIS written?

Are you now being like Eve?

Who ADDED "...and not touch it..." to what GOD said to Adam??

Genesis 3:3

323 posted on 01/13/2019 4:10:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Songcraft
I just used a text from the Holy Scriptures to warn Elsie about how God looks at men who falsely and deceptively pretend to be women.

HMMMmmm… just WHERE in the Book that Rome gave the world is THIS written?

Are you now being like Eve?

Who ADDED "...and not touch it..." to what GOD said to Adam??

Genesis 3:3

324 posted on 01/13/2019 4:12:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Songcraft
I just used a text from the Holy Scriptures to warn Elsie about how God looks at men who falsely and deceptively pretend to be women.

I truly appreciate the help you are trying to give; both to me and no doubt others.

After all; how can one go wrong after reading this??

2 Timothy 3:16-17

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.


Galatians 5:12

As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

325 posted on 01/13/2019 4:20:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Songcraft
Well, boatbums, fist let me assure you...

Sometimes a cigar is merely a cigar.

326 posted on 01/13/2019 4:21:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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