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To: af_vet_1981
It is evident the Messiah taught that disciples (little flock) who did not watch would be punished when He returned, and at levels commensurate with the offences.

Which is just what will happen at the great white throne judgment that occurs after the Lord returns, which is the time period this punishment occurs, versus commencing at death, as in Purgatory. Thus Scriptural eschatology is against you.

When the Lord returns believers will also be rewarded at the judgment seat of Christ, "every man according to his own labor" - the quantity and quality of what he helped build the church - with loss of rewards - and the Lord's grievous displeasure - being the only suffering mentioned after this life.

And with the only transformational change being that of the believer resurrection and constitutional conformity to Christ.

And if Cath. Purgatory was what the believers then that would be just as manifestly taught as the judgment seat of Christ - which is not it - and the believer resurrection, rather than you having to attempt to extrapolate it out of unclear texts as Luke 12.

Furthermore, in contrast, besides the time period being contrary to Purgatory the only location mentioned in Luke 12:41-48 is that of being appointed his portion with the unbelievers, while all the servants are those who "prepared not" or who knew not, neither of which describes believers walking in saving, obedient faith. Against which Hebrews 10:25-39 warns.

284 posted on 01/11/2019 5:43:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
Which is just what will happen at the great white throne judgment that occurs after the Lord returns, which is the time period this punishment occurs, versus commencing at death, as in Purgatory. Thus Scriptural eschatology is against you.

Whenever the LORD comes for His servants; one cannot avoid the scripture in which the Messiah clearly taught three levels of punishment for His servants that did not watch (their behavior).

When the Lord returns believers will also be rewarded at the judgment seat of Christ, "every man according to his own labor" - the quantity and quality of what he helped build the church - with loss of rewards - and the Lord's grievous displeasure - being the only suffering mentioned after this life.

Suffer loss, not suffer loss of rewards. Look how ζημιόω to damage, suffer loss is used in the scriptures. It is not loss of rewords.

    Six occurrences
  1. lose his own soul
  2. lose his own soul
  3. be cast away
  4. he shall suffer loss
  5. ye might receive damage
  6. I have suffered the loss


And with the only transformational change being that of the believer resurrection and constitutional conformity to Christ.

And if Cath. Purgatory was what the believers then that would be just as manifestly taught as the judgment seat of Christ - which is not it - and the believer resurrection, rather than you having to attempt to extrapolate it out of unclear texts as Luke 12.

Just believe the text; three levels of punishment when the LORD judges His servants who did not watch (their behavior).

Furthermore, in contrast, besides the time period being contrary to Purgatory the only location mentioned in Luke 12:41-48 is that of being appointed his portion with the unbelievers, while all the servants are those who "prepared not" or who knew not, neither of which describes believers walking in saving, obedient faith. Against which Hebrews 10:25-39 warns.

The most severe punishment; no Once Saved Always Saved for the one who believes in being saved but did not watch (his works).
287 posted on 01/11/2019 8:50:44 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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