Shriners Circus of Abominations

Dr. William Schnoebelen ^ | Published on Jul 16, 2018 | Dr. William Schnoebelen

[fishtank]

"Shriners hide the terrifying abuses of a secretive organization behind smiling clowns, candy and tear-jerking, sentimental ads for children’s hospitals while soliciting millions from an unsuspecting uninformed public."

[Redwood71]

“The Masons are a Satanic cult.”

Where did you get this? They are not any more secretive than many organizations, and they do not do satanic things like kill chickens or torture anyone. A candidate just has to have a belief in a true and living God. So does most of the world.

Is the Shrine a party group? Yes they are. That is what they began as and advertised they were. But they do a lot of good things too. Someone mentioned the Shriners’ Hospitals: Shriners Hospitals for Children is a network of 22 non-profit medical facilities across North America. Children with orthopaedic conditions, burns, spinal cord injuries, and cleft lip and palate are eligible for care and receive all services in a family-centered environment, regardless of the patients’ ability to pay. And if they can’t pay, they won’t and the kids will get the best care the facility can give. And if they can’t get it there, they will be taken to another facility at Shriner expense.

So, let them party. Maybe they can celebrate the saving of a child today. That’s something worth celebrating about, isn’t it? And you can be assured they will thank that living God because he healed that child. Satan wouldn’t have, God does. Sorry you were misinformed.

rwood

[trisham]

Bill
Mini Bio (1)
William Schnoebelen was born as William James Schnoebelen. He is known for his work on Interview with an Ex-Vampire (2006), Supernatural Powers: The Battle Between Good and Evil (2003) and Devil Worship: The Rise of Satanism (1989). He was previously married to Sharon Lee Dura.
Spouse (1)
Sharon Lee Dura (31 May 1973 - 1 January 2010) ( her death)
Trivia (2)
Graduated from Lora College in 1971 with a Bachelor in Music degree.

Masters degree in Theological Studies degree from St. Francis School of Pastoral Ministry in 1980.

Master of Arts degree in counseling from Liberty University in 1990.
William Schnoebelen is a fundamentalist Christian who claims to have been, among other things, a Satanist, a Freemason, a member of the Illuminati, and a vampire.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2290596/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

No thanks.

[Hammerhead]

i cant stand that kid.

They try to put him up cute and adorable but it’s just so overplayed it’s ridiculous.

Is borderline creepy to be honest with you.

[raiderboy]

I think people are bored and want to get drunk and cavort .there is a lot of chasing others spouses.

[Hammerhead]

I’ve been to the Masonic Temple in old town Alexandria Virginia twice. The big one that sits on top of the hill overlooking the city. That place is probably the creepiest, dead feeling, place I’ve ever been in.

The feeling of eternal emptiness is overwhelming. The 2 Masons who were there were angry and mean.

it felt like a dark, heavy spiritual blanket almost to point where breathing felt labored.

dont tell me there isnt any satantic influence. Everyone I was with felt the same thing.

So

[Hammerhead]

See my post below? I encourage you to revisit that feeling when you walked in through the front doors.

[metmom]

This link is very interesting and gives some historical info on some of the Founding Fathers and their opinion of Free Masonry.

https://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm

[metmom]

I am not unaware of the Shriner’s Hospital and all the good they do for kids who are severely injured especially from burns.

And that is wonderful.

That, however, does not negate the spiritual aspect of Free Masonry and other fraternal organizations that engage in that kind of oath taking and spiritual connections.

[metmom]

A man and his wife in our town stopped by the house once for something (I think we were selling something and he was interested).

Anyway, he talked to mr. mm and me and we both felt the same eerie feeling from him, like there was an evil presence lurking close to the surface just underneath all the smiles and (attempt at) charm and joking.

[ealgeone]

The Masons are a Satanic cult. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Shriner’s were too.

Despite its Orientalist theme, the Shrine is a men's fraternity, connected to neither Arab culture nor Islam. Its only religious requirement is indirect: all Shriners must be Masons and petitioners to Freemasonry must profess a belief in a Supreme Being. To further minimize confusion with religion, the use of the words "temple" and "mosque" to describe Shriners' buildings has been replaced by "Shrine Center", although some individual local chapters are still called Temples.

Florence, a world-renowned actor, while on tour in Marseille, was invited to a party given by an Arabian diplomat. The entertainment was something in the nature of an elaborately staged musical comedy. At its conclusion, the guests became members of a secret society. Florence took copious notes and drawings at his initial viewing and on two other occasions, once in Algiers and once in Cairo. When he returned to New York in 1870, he showed his material to Fleming.[3]

Fleming created the ritual, emblem and costumes. Florence and Fleming were initiated August 13, 1870, and initiated 11 other men on June 16, 1871.[4]

The group adopted a Middle Eastern theme and soon established Temples (though the term Temple has now generally been replaced by Shrine Auditorium or Shrine Center). The first Temple established was Mecca Temple (now known as Mecca Shriners), established at the New York City Masonic Hall on September 26, 1872. Fleming was the first Potentate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriners#History

Let the reader draw their own conclusions.

I've always had suspicions about these "secret societies".

As they confess belief in a "Supreme Being" which doesn't necessarily equate to be God as revealed in the Scriptures, I'd say these are not a Christian organization. If they are not professing God as witnessed in the Scriptures then they are not a Christian organization.

[ealgeone]

mmThe Masons are a Satanic cult.

pfflier Really??

I offer this as an overview of Free Masonry.

Please note - by this article, we are not claiming that all who are involved in Freemasonry are cultists, or that all Freemasons believe all the items mentioned below. What we are saying is this - Freemasonry at its core is not a Christian organization. There are many Christians who have left Freemasonry after discovering what it is truly all about. Please visit Ex-Masons for Jesus for more information. There are also good and godly men, true believers in Christ who are Freemasons. It is our contention that this is because they do not truly understand Freemasonry. Each person should pray for wisdom and discernment from the Lord as to whether to be involved with Freemasonry. This article was reviewed and approved for accuracy by a former Worshipful Master of a Blue Lodge.

Question: "What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?"

Answer: Freemasonry, Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them appear to promote belief in God. However, upon closer examination, we find that the only belief requirement is not that one must believe in the True and Living God, but rather, that one must believe in the existence of a “Supreme Being”, which includes the “gods” of Islam, Hinduism, or any other world religion. The unbiblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices of this organization are partially hidden beneath an outward appearance of a supposed compatibility with the Christian faith. The following is a comparison of what the Bible says with the "official" position of Freemasonry:

Salvation from Sin:

The Bible’s View: Jesus became the sinner’s sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of all those who would ever believe (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 3:16).

Mason’s View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to ignore the exclusivity of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. According to Freemasonry, a person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.

The View of the Bible:

The Bible’s View: The supernatural and plenary inspiration of the Scriptures—that they are inerrant and that their teachings and authority are absolute, supreme, and final. The Bible is the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Mason’s View: The Bible is only one of several “Volume(s) of Sacred Law,” all of which are deemed to be equally important in Freemasonry. The Bible is an important book, only as far as those members who claim to be Christians are concerned, just as the Koran is important to Muslims. The Bible is not considered to be the exclusive Word of God, nor is it considered to be God’s sole revelation of himself to humankind; but only one of many religious sourcebooks. It is a good guide for morality. The Bible is used primarily as a symbol of God’s will, which can also be captured in other sacred texts, like the Koran or Rig Vedas.

The Doctrine of God:

The Bible’s View: There is one God. The various names of God refer to the God of Israel and reveal certain attributes of God. To worship other gods or to call upon other deities is idolatry (Exodus 20:3). Paul spoke of idolatry as a heinous sin (1 Corinthians 10:14) and John said that idolaters will perish in hell (Revelation 21:8).

Mason’s View: All members must believe in a deity. Different religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) acknowledge the same God, only call Him different names. Freemasonry invites people of all faiths, even if they use different names for the ‘Nameless One of a hundred names,’ they are yet praying to the one God and Father of all.

The Doctrine of Jesus and the Trinity:

The Bible’s View: Jesus was God in human form (Matthew 1:18-24, John 1:1). Jesus is the second person of the trinity (Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:9-11). While on earth, He was fully human (Mark 4:38, Matthew 4:2) and fully divine (John 20:28, John 1:1-2, Acts 4:10-12). Christians should pray in Jesus’ name and proclaim Him before others, regardless of offense to non-Christians (John 14:13-14, 1 John 2:23, Acts 4:18-20).

Mason’s View: There is no exclusivity in Jesus Christ or the Triune God who is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; therefore there is no doctrine of the deity of Jesus Christ. It is deemed to be un-Masonic to invoke the name of Jesus when praying, or mention His name in the Lodge. Suggesting that Jesus is the only way to God contradicts the principle of tolerance. The name of Jesus has been omitted from biblical verses that are used in Masonic rituals. Jesus is on the same level as other religious leaders.

Human Nature and Sin:

The Bible’s View: All humans are born with a sinful nature, are totally depraved, and need a Savior from sin (Romans 3:23, Romans 5:12, Psalm 51:5, Ephesians 2:1). The Bible denies that because of the Fall, humanity has within itself the capacity for moral perfection (1 John 1:8-10, Romans 1:18-25).

Mason’s View: Through symbols and emblems, Masons teach that man is not sinful, just “rude and imperfect by nature”. Human beings are able to improve their character and behavior in various ways, including acts of charity, moral living, and voluntary performance of civic duty. Humanity possesses the ability of moving from imperfection toward total perfection. Moral and spiritual perfection lies within men and women.

When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing to the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:

1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.

2. That Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.

3. That they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.

4. That they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.

5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name

of the Lord in vain. 6. Masonry teaches that its G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is representative of all gods in all religions.

7. Masonry makes Christians take a universalist approach in their prayers, demanding a “generic” name be used so as not to offend non-believers who are Masonic “brothers”.

8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven. By their very membership in such a syncretistic type organization, they have severely compromised their witnessing as Christians.

9. By taking the Masonic obligation, the Christian is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.

As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture and numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Freemasonry.

https://www.gotquestions.org/free-masonry.html

[ealgeone]

The Mason's are not a Christian organization based on their own admission.

They deny the truths of the Bible. If you're denying the truth of the Bible, that is the spirit of antichrist. I do not say that lightly but as an admonition to those in the organization to compare the oaths they sworn with God's Word.

From these Masonic Service Association of North America's website [emphasis mine]:

Basic Principles. Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. It requires of its members a belief in God as part of the obligation of every responsible adult, but advocates no sectarian faith or practice. Masonic ceremonies include prayers, both traditional and extempore, to reaffirm each individual's dependence on God and to seek divine guidance. Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings.

The Supreme Being. Masons believe that there is one God and that people employ many different ways to seek, and to express what they know of God. Masonry primarily uses the appellation, "Grand Architect of the Universe," and other non-sectarian titles, to address the Deity. In this way, persons of different faiths may join together in prayer, concentrating on God, rather than differences among themselves. Masonry believes in religious freedom and that the relationship between the individual and God is personal, private, and sacred.

http://www.msana.com/religion.asp

[fishtank]

Thanks to both of you for your helpful posts!!

[fishtank]

This quote from your post is worth repeating:

“Salvation from Sin:

The Bible’s View: Jesus became the sinner’s sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of all those who would ever believe (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 3:16).

Mason’s View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to ignore the exclusivity of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. According to Freemasonry, a person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.”

Or to summarize: Jesus said, “I AM your Savior.”

Masonry says, “Save yourself”.

[Vendome]

Naw.

Some people are just unhappy dichs...

If you met my friends you’d think “These guys think everything is funny”.

And we do.

[Vendome]

Atheists cannot be Masons.

The “G” you see on Masonic rings and in the lodge is the first initial of God.

Your God, my God and the one true God who gave us the creations and gave us breath.
Satan once attempted to submit an application for membership and it was rejected outside the lodge.

You couldn’t be a Mason and serve God in regular lodge and Satan as a Shrines.

I can’t contemplate how you would even do that.

That kind duality within man would destroy most.

Rant off.

[ealgeone]

Yes fellow Freeper.....glad to be of some help.

[ealgeone]

The “G” you see on Masonic rings and in the lodge is the first initial of God.

Your God, my God and the one true God who gave us the creations and gave us breath. Satan once attempted to submit an application for membership and it was rejected outside the lodge.

Except that is not what Masons proclaim on their website. Your god could be Allah or any of the Hindu gods.

When they say God, it is not the God of the Bible.

[Vendome]

That would be their God.

Your God and mine are the same.

The goal of Masonry is to unite all men and not let religion divide us.

They are free and so are we to their faith, with no fear of coarse words or violence.

Heck, we are forbidden to discuss religion or topics in lodge for that very reason.

It’s not all this spook crap the Catholic Church created to cover up their crimes 700 years ago.

[fishtank]

Do you believe that Jesus is Yahweh, the I AM, the Creator of the universe, the God-man in human flesh?