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At the name of Jesus
OSV.com ^ | 06-10-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Sontagged
I’ve got the Scriptures to back up my point,

I've asked you to share chapter and verse, but so far you have not...

841 posted on 07/07/2018 8:02:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: imardmd1
Reminds me of Les Paul and Mary Ford: “Somewhere, the world is waiting for the sunrise . . .” but you’re probably too young to remember that kind of music.

Umm, no, not too young. Maybe you mean this Les Paul and Mary Ford, possibly? How about this lovely lady? One of my favorites. 😁😇

842 posted on 07/07/2018 8:13:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Sontagged
The prooftext for your argument would be that the sacrificial animals of the Levitical priesthood would have to be absolutely drained of every last bit of blood.

They did, because a lot of the flesh sacrificed was their food, and they were forbidden to eat blood, therefore they bled it out. All kosher meat is treated that way, right up to now, firmly. And Gentile Christians ought to be a little more careful also:

"But that we write unto themthe Gentile believers, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood" (Acts 15:20 AV).

Do you not see that if Jesus' Body had not been bled dry through the heart pumping blood out of the strain-enlarged spike perforations in his extremities, combined with final exsanguination of his abdominal cavity and heart, that His Body, if filled with blood, would have been the same as a strangled animal, which without the incision of a major blood vessel, the blood would have no escape path?

But that obviously was not the case for Jesus.

And as an aside, the posture of there having been a long time before He was pierced cannot be right. He gave up the ghost at three P. M. and since it was the preparation, all activity had to cease by six P.M., the sunset, the beginning of a double Sabbath. So the disciples had only less than three hours to get his body down, wrap it up, and bury it, with the women washing it and applying spices. The piercing had to take place before all of this, which does not give much time for the blood to gel and cause rigor mortis (if it was to occur at all, and I do not believe it could).

My Friend, you don't have much wiggle room, considering all the facts, for your theory to be accepted. There is another factor of taking into account the Holiness of His Blood that needs to be dealt with, but it cannot be that his Blood stopped being fluid and life-bearing at any point. So His Blood would continue to drain at all times, until there was none left.

Commentators are not always right, and many times they disagree with each other. They are not to be totally relied upon. Always check them out.

843 posted on 07/07/2018 8:35:35 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Elsie; metmom; MHGinTN; imardmd1
How many angels can dance on a pin
Asked sir Elsie, with a sheepish grin
Don’t ask me how
They do it till now
It has no affect on the forgiveness of sin.
844 posted on 07/07/2018 8:57:11 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
Well. in 1952, this Les Paul and Mary Ford. Actually, now, "White Cliffs of Dover" was before your time, popular about the middle of WWII, I think offhand. I remember my Dad humming it when I was about 6, maybe.
845 posted on 07/07/2018 9:08:49 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Vermont Lt; Elsie
Some of these thouoghts have occurred, yes; most of us are perhaps not dazzlingly visionary, but at least not dull. But water, you know, dripping on a stone . . .

If not that, then to keep the Sword of the Spirit bright, shining, and sharp, allowing it to keep on dividing the soul from the spirit, discerning the thoughts and intents of the participants' hearts (although you know, there is no mind-reading allowed here, eh?) for all to see.

And the slant of their pet religious enterprises as well.

846 posted on 07/07/2018 9:20:06 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Vermont Lt
. I intentionally did not direct the comment to any specific person.

That's ok; for I am as guilty as the next guy in these urinating contests.

847 posted on 07/07/2018 1:54:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Sometimes you miss the point grandly.

But mostly on purpose.

848 posted on 07/07/2018 1:54:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sontagged
I don’t understand the question. If you are asking if I believe in the Trinity and a Triune Godhead... of course.

Then let me repeat it:

Do you agree that the second part of the Godhead was spirit; like the Father and the Holy Spirit; before it took on flesh in Mary and received names like Jesus and Immanuel?

849 posted on 07/07/2018 1:56:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I would guess a lot more blood came out when they took Jesus’ body off the cross.


850 posted on 07/07/2018 2:03:37 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Vermont Lt

EVERY thread?

No.


851 posted on 07/07/2018 2:05:05 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mark17
Asked sir Elsie, with a big, sheepish grin
How is it, that we're forgiven sin?
Just between me and you,
"It's not something we do";
I told those two guys ridin' a Schwinn.
852 posted on 07/07/2018 2:06:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

99 out of 100?


853 posted on 07/07/2018 2:11:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: metmom

Could be.

Do we know how long it took to get Him down after the spear thrust?

John 19:31

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Shabbat/Special/special.html


854 posted on 07/07/2018 2:13:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I’ve never heard the language you use here before ‘before ‘it’ took on flesh in Mary...”

It’s your language usage that I don’t understand. But I agree that “before Abraham ever was, Jesus existed. “I am”.

And yes I believe in the one Triune God.

Is there anything in this that reflects on why Christ would appear in His Glorified Form to everyone after He was raised from the dead?


855 posted on 07/07/2018 2:38:33 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Elsie; Mark17

With all this talk about underbritches,
We might get caught up in the glitches.
Though some may think it is wise
To reveal what they wear off their thighs,
I’ll concentrate on those things that enrich us.


856 posted on 07/07/2018 2:49:25 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Elsie; metmom
Me jumping in, uninvited: Well within 3 hours, for sure.

Back home, we gut deer and hang them days, before skinning them. Don't want their blood in the meat.

857 posted on 07/07/2018 2:57:10 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Sontagged
Jesus had the same body after He was raised from the dead than He had before.

Yet, His disciples didn't recognize Him at first. Something was different.

858 posted on 07/07/2018 3:31:30 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: imardmd1

My parents were big fans of Vera Lynn. They told me they almost named my older sister after her, but changed their minds. I am not positive, but she might have been in the RAF herself. “Never has so much been owed by so many, to so few.” I think she entertained 8th Air Force bomber crews, who were flying combat missions from RAF bases, in England. She is still alive too. My dad survived the war, but my uncle died on the infamous Bataan death march. I have seen the death march memorial. It was a moving experience.


859 posted on 07/07/2018 4:07:44 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: boatbums; Elsie
Do we have a limerick war on the horizon? 😁
860 posted on 07/07/2018 4:13:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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