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At the name of Jesus
OSV.com ^ | 06-10-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: boatbums

Do you happen to know when Catholicism stopped claiming they give body and blood of Jesus in the Mass?


801 posted on 07/06/2018 9:54:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Do you happen to know when Catholicism stopped claiming they give body and blood of Jesus in the Mass?

When they stopped or when they started claiming the bread and wine of the Lord's Supper are transubstaniated into the literal body and blood of Jesus?

802 posted on 07/06/2018 10:59:13 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: metmom; imardmd1; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN
It is my opinion, that there was no blood in the body of Jesus, when he rose from the dead. I am not that concerned if anyone doesn’t like that. I don’t think it is absolutely necessary, that we totally understand the idiosyncrasies of flesh vs blood, to be born again. By the way, I never knew you were a bunch of Mormons. 😁🤣😇😆
803 posted on 07/07/2018 1:20:44 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
By the way, I never knew you were a bunch of Mormons.

Me neither. At least, I don't got no funny undies.

804 posted on 07/07/2018 1:43:24 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Me neither. At least, I don't got no funny undies.

LOL. Yes, the magic underwear. I forgot about that aspect of Mormonism. It’s pretty sick, actually.

805 posted on 07/07/2018 2:15:01 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: imardmd1

You are up early. It’s 5:15 PM on Saturday, right here.


806 posted on 07/07/2018 2:16:25 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

I have no structure, no job to go to, nobody to scold o appeal to me. Up early? Usually just up because I never got down. Rust never sleeps. Anyway, half your day os tomorrow for me, anyways. Have a happy evening. Reminds me of Les Paul and Mary Ford: “Somewhere, the world is waiting for the sunrise . . .” but you’re probably too young to remember that kind of music.<>I did have a half-hour snooze. Now that it’s light out, I can get a little more sleep.


807 posted on 07/07/2018 3:54:02 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
So, how do lambs take away (=utterly remove) the abstract “sin” and its effects?

'Tis a mystery.


We DO know from Scripture that the blood of bulls and goats don't work!
Hebrews 10:4

808 posted on 07/07/2018 4:59:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sontagged
Elsie, and you have a duty to correct on such an important topic.

Sorry to disappoint; but I don't 'correct' as much as I lay out what I find that is pertinent in the Book and let readers draw their own conclusions.

“I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist”


The Word does NOT give any details on what 'coming in the flesh' actually means.

Seems like a lot of us in this thread are trying to do that and then being baffled when others do not see quite the same way; even after much explanation.

809 posted on 07/07/2018 5:04:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sontagged
To say that Jesus was resurrected in a bloodless, alien fleshed, immortal body, is to deny the Word that says He was resurrected in the same body He was crucified in, a body that suffered no corruption.

This seems obvious; but since He has NOT returned for the Second time; we've no idea what His eternal 'body' will be like.


Do you agree that the second part of the Godhead was spirit; like the Father and the Holy Spirit; before it took on flesh in Mary and received names like Jesus and Immanuel?

810 posted on 07/07/2018 5:08:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sontagged
No where does it say that Jesus died of blood loss,

I missed where this was claimed.

We DO know that AFTER death; Jesus was stabbed with a spear and then...

John 19:34 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

Instead, one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, and at once blood and water came out.


Christ’s body was not drained of blood.

This would appear true, since it would be a bit hard for the blood to flow from below the wound in His side.

811 posted on 07/07/2018 5:17:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Where did Jesus walk through walls before His resurrection?

Or even AFTER; for that matter!


 

First, the text does not actually say Jesus passed through a closed door. It simply says that “when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled...
It does not say that Jesus walked through walls, but merely says that He appeared to them when the door was locked.
John 20:19
 

 
Don't be like THESE guys; who make the 'meaning' of the verse agree with their presumptions about Jesus...
 
https://www.jwinfoline.com/Documents/Resurrection/how_could_jesus_walk_through_walls.htm
JW info.

812 posted on 07/07/2018 5:25:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

Thanks for adding a lot of detail into this matter.

I tend to make short statements that can be misinterpreted at times.


813 posted on 07/07/2018 5:27:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

I was gonna type, “ No need to bother GOD; as you are doing a fair job yourself.”; but I didn’t.


814 posted on 07/07/2018 5:28:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

Uh...

...I guess I just did.


815 posted on 07/07/2018 5:29:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

8:30 here; time for breakfast.

I’ve already sat in front of this screen an hour...


816 posted on 07/07/2018 5:30:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
...isn't it logical that the blood of Jesus was also fully poured out upon the heavenly mercy seat?

No.

Some of it came out; along with water; after the soldier pierced His side.

817 posted on 07/07/2018 5:33:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

All of this finger sprinkling SURELY does not use up ALL the blood; could it?


818 posted on 07/07/2018 5:34:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
Again, the forgiveness took place in Heaven, not at the Cross, …


"Today you shall be with me in Paradise."

819 posted on 07/07/2018 5:36:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
Therefore I say to the Israelites, ‘None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner living among you eat blood.' (Leviticus 17:11,12)

Therefore I say to the Catholics, "Go ahead; 'cause you ain't Israelites!

820 posted on 07/07/2018 5:38:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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