Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation
Bowing at the mention of Jesus’ name is an old practice that has since fallen into wide disuse
Msgr. Charles Pope June 10, 2018
Question: I was taught to nod my head when the name of Jesus was spoken. I see some priests and congregants do it, but not most. What is the current practice? — Diane Garrett, via email
Answer: Liturgically it is not required. This is a pious custom that, while less common today, is still observed by many. This is not only in the liturgy, but at any time the name of Jesus is uttered, and also, quite commonly, the name of Mary. In the traditional Latin Mass, where clergy wear birettas (a kind of square hat with a pom), there is the additional tipping (lifting off) of the biretta at the names of Jesus, Mary and the saint of the day. This external and very visible action also helped the faithful remember to bow their heads.
This laudable custom has sadly declined. Some clergy and others still observe it, and, while it is not required, it is worthy of being encouraged. Other customs too should not be forgotten, such as making the Sign of the Cross when passing a Catholic Church, praying the Angelus at noon and 6 p.m., and so forth. The generations raised in the 1960s and ’70s largely abandoned such practices. However, many of their children have rediscovered some of these lost customs like a precious heirloom brought down from the attic. Thus, while being careful not to harshly judge those who do not follow this non-required custom, many can joyfully take it up again and encourage others to do so.
Who’s Tim Staples?
Nobody focuses on the minors like Catholicism.
Ya THINK???!!!
http://www.usccb.org/about/divine-worship/liturgical-calendar/upload/2018cal.pdf
Uh ho.....sounds like someone didn't read the passages below.
10Then Jesus said to him, “Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.’” Matthew 4:10 NASB
9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.” Romans 10:9-13 NASB
31What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Romans 8:31-35 NASB
Amazing that Paul, in writing Romans which is probably one of the most theological of all the NT books, somehow failed to mention what was posted above.
Oh, so the whole thing about graven images is not to worship them as a god? You mean like in this:
“I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Me.”
Hahn and Staples are both Roman Catholic apologists.
Not to say the entire Roman Catholic church would be guilty when they were collecting coins for indulgences.
You should quit while you're behind.
I just mean that there’s no difference in the status of the OT and NT believers; they’re waiting for the Second Coming and the resurrection of all the dead.
The sacrifice of Christ could have had an effect even before it happened, thus affecting the Old Testament believers who were looking forward to it. Because the Lord created time, he is not bound to it like we are. So effect could well come before cause in this case.
That’s getting kind of philosophical and speculative of course.
They’re engraved with images. Why do you say they’re not graven images?
If I remember history correctly, Roman coins were a point of serious contention between Rome and the Jewish religious leaders, because the face side proclaimed Caesar to be a god.
And it was a complaint of the Pharisees and Sadducees anyways.
Not exactly the same as today.
If we were to use that argument, then the Ark of the Covenant would be a violation of the commandment.
Yes, I’m reading. I responded to your written post. Could you maybe get the idea I was asking for more information than you provided?
Exactly. You’re on track.
But they weren’t guilty. Why not?
Jesus didn’t say anything about the image on the coin breaking the second commandment nor did He tell the pharisees to not use coins because the image was on them.
Additionally, while Catholics focus all the attention on the weak arguement that any image is a violation of the second commandment, they totally ignore the part of the commandment where we are commanded to not BOW DOWN to the image.
And that where Catholics lose big time.
There are more than anough pictures of Catholics, all the way up to and including the pope, bowing down to their graven images of Mary.
That would make Him a sinner.
And we know based on the Word that is not the case.
I see you identify on the Egypt message board....are you Muslim?
You’ve missed the point, once again. Why are not all images a violation of the commandment?
You’ve missed the point, once again. Why are not all images a violation of the commandment?
No.
Read, or re-read the commandment. Your answer is there.
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