Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation
Bowing at the mention of Jesus’ name is an old practice that has since fallen into wide disuse
Msgr. Charles Pope June 10, 2018
Question: I was taught to nod my head when the name of Jesus was spoken. I see some priests and congregants do it, but not most. What is the current practice? — Diane Garrett, via email
Answer: Liturgically it is not required. This is a pious custom that, while less common today, is still observed by many. This is not only in the liturgy, but at any time the name of Jesus is uttered, and also, quite commonly, the name of Mary. In the traditional Latin Mass, where clergy wear birettas (a kind of square hat with a pom), there is the additional tipping (lifting off) of the biretta at the names of Jesus, Mary and the saint of the day. This external and very visible action also helped the faithful remember to bow their heads.
This laudable custom has sadly declined. Some clergy and others still observe it, and, while it is not required, it is worthy of being encouraged. Other customs too should not be forgotten, such as making the Sign of the Cross when passing a Catholic Church, praying the Angelus at noon and 6 p.m., and so forth. The generations raised in the 1960s and ’70s largely abandoned such practices. However, many of their children have rediscovered some of these lost customs like a precious heirloom brought down from the attic. Thus, while being careful not to harshly judge those who do not follow this non-required custom, many can joyfully take it up again and encourage others to do so.
Oops, my apologies for the earlier comment; I misread what you had to say. I ask your forgiveness for the snark that I put out there because I didn’t catch the meaning ‘til afterwards.
Anyways, apology accepted.
All is forgiven.
Thank you for your kind reply.
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It looks like the pot is calling the kettle black: “say it the way we say it or it’s wrong.” The fact is Scripture doesn’t divide or enumerate the 10 Commandments in the abbreviated forms used.
Let me once again remind you of the full First Commandment as taught by the Church:
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them. It is written: "You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve."
There is Church (as you used it, referring to the institutional ORG known as Catholicism) and there is church or Ekklesia, the entire body of believers who have been born again by the Grace of God in Christ through and under the shed blood of The Son o0f God / God with us.
Then perhaps Rome should not only teach this in full, but also practice in full.
Typical.
Then perhaps you guys shouldn’t be hypocrites bound to your own traditions.
However, that isn’t what infool7 is posting. He’s posting from beginningcatholic.com.
I go by what the Word says....not what man says.
But if Rome were to do that and Roman Catholics were to actually read the text for themselves, they may begin to question why they are kneeling before and praying to idols of Mary.
Sure your not. “Say it like we say it or you’re wrong”.
Hypocrites.
All I’m saying is say it like the Word says it. That way you minimize error.
We all say them using the words from Scripture. When using the traditional, abbreviated forms of the Commandments, we are using a truncated form of Scripture by not reciting the full verses of Scripture as found in either Deuteronomy or Exodus. So, don’t be a hypocrite with your accusations.
That’s not Scripture.
That’s Catholic opinion and commentary, essentially, excuse making for breaking the Second Commandment.
It is Rome that is being hypocritical in their approach to this in allowing the worship of Mary and idols of her.
It’s the non-Scripture Catholic commentary stuck in the middle of the Scripture passage that I copied and pasted.
I only copied the Scripture, not the Catholic excuse making and justification for breaking the Second Commandment.
Arguing against wrong Catholic tradition is being against it, so no I am not bound by it.
If I were bound by tradition, I’d still be believing the corrupted text that Catholicism passes off as God’s word.
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