Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation
Bowing at the mention of Jesus name is an old practice that has since fallen into wide disuse
Msgr. Charles Pope June 10, 2018
Question: I was taught to nod my head when the name of Jesus was spoken. I see some priests and congregants do it, but not most. What is the current practice? — Diane Garrett, via email
Answer: Liturgically it is not required. This is a pious custom that, while less common today, is still observed by many. This is not only in the liturgy, but at any time the name of Jesus is uttered, and also, quite commonly, the name of Mary. In the traditional Latin Mass, where clergy wear birettas (a kind of square hat with a pom), there is the additional tipping (lifting off) of the biretta at the names of Jesus, Mary and the saint of the day. This external and very visible action also helped the faithful remember to bow their heads.
This laudable custom has sadly declined. Some clergy and others still observe it, and, while it is not required, it is worthy of being encouraged. Other customs too should not be forgotten, such as making the Sign of the Cross when passing a Catholic Church, praying the Angelus at noon and 6 p.m., and so forth. The generations raised in the 1960s and ’70s largely abandoned such practices. However, many of their children have rediscovered some of these lost customs like a precious heirloom brought down from the attic. Thus, while being careful not to harshly judge those who do not follow this non-required custom, many can joyfully take it up again and encourage others to do so.
God created Adam from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
I wasn’t out to find fault. This did give the opportunity to mention this issue again at length. I think I did sense that maybe this was a “remembered” citation, and if I had listened to my alter ego I could have asked. Please do not take this as a “correction” meant to humble you. That was not my intent.
Now HEAR de Word of de Lord . . .
I am traveling and do not have my usual computer with me so dont have my store of verses on hand.
I will, however, try to be more conscientious.
Sorry; But I do not see it.
I said, Sovereign Lord, you alone know. <--- my answer; too; to this continuing back and forth about blood and bones and whatever.
1 Thess 414 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.
God will bring with Jesus from where, to receive new bodies? Where is Jesus now? Who will God bring with Jesus from where Jesus is now? ... and Paul, since he said to be absent from the body is to be present WITH THE LORD where He is.
You keep stating the dead believers are in heaven already.
When did they get their new, non-flesh and blood/bone bodies?
From my #1082, citing Adam Clarke re "flesh and blood" not in the KOG:
"The apostle is certainly not speaking of flesh and blood in a moralfigurative sense, to signify corruption of mind and heart; but in a naturalplain-literal sense; as such, flesh and blood cannot inherit glory, for the reasons already assigned."Regeneration places your new man, soul-and-spirit, already in Heaven:
Col 3:1-4 AV:Els, the new man resulting from spiritual birth (regenerated) is already in Heaven, seated with/in Christ, and has a life-line securely connected to the present physical husk grappling for control of it with the carnal old man which is, through the imputed righteousness of Christ, now reckoned by God as being dead dead dead.
1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above,
where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3For ye arealready dead, and your lifeζωη=eternal absolute life is hidforever with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our lifeζωη, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Rom 6:6,7 AV:When that lifeline to Heaven is severed, one's life, one's personality remains in The Holy Presence of God with Christ, and the old lifeless, soulless depersonalized flesh-and-blood body falls into corruption or even atomization, which has no effect on the saved entity now in heaven, but until Jesus' harpadzo of the saints, is without a flesh-and-bone vehicle; but then, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye so to speak, is clothed with that new, permanent, incorruptible, spirit-energized dynamic power of motility, for ever.
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sinmightbe destroyed,
that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Heb 6:18-20 AV:
18That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie,
we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold
upon the hope set before us:
19Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast,
and which entereth into that within the veil;
20Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
There is no soul sleep model that fits in with this preservation of the sentient, God-aware individual. IMHO.
Moreover, if a person fully believes that he/she can lose one's saved status, then doubtless he/she has not totally committed irreversible total trust as a slave of The Christ that has the power to keep His Own possession secure; and therefore, does not have that salvation at all.
Such a person needs to take a personal inventory of his/her true status, and remedy that forthwith by casting ALL one's care upon God's Christ, not retaining one smidgen of any kind of necessity of doing something to stay saved.
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith;
prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves,
how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
(2 Cor. 13:5 AV)
I gotcha. I’m sure everyone will cut you some slack, knowing your dependability. Just throw in a disclaimer, and you’re on the way. I hope you can get some rest, and that your jaunt will be enjoyable and profitable to your soul!
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