[af_vet_1981]

You assert that the ekklesia HAS to be visible and HAS to be an organization ...

I did not introduce the term organization, and certainly not as a polemic. I also did not condemn the church in Rome. Scripture praises the church in Rome. I have never heard of an assembly that is invisible. Neither have I ever heard of a church without administration.

[Elsie]

Scripture praises the church in Rome.

Not so much it's children; found in Revelation chapters 2-3.

[imardmd1]

It is the churches visible that are the Kingdom of Heaven, that are wheart and tares, that are bad fish and good fish, in whose brances the ravens roost and pick the seeds of the sown gospel that no others may benefit of that seed, monstrous freaks that have multitudes of energy-sucking leaves, but no fruit.

Jesus' Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, is not of this world, to us invisible, but not to God, or the angels (bad or good), the friends of the Bride, and the regenerated saints alone who have passed into Glory and the presence of the Prince; the panegyric festive assembly which is the church gathering in heaven whose Head is the First-begotten from the Dead, and whose members are written in the Lamb's Book of Life: That is the invisible church of saved souls only, not of others who may even be hoping for it, but not throughly and wholly committed to the Messiah by faith alone, through God's grace alone, made accepted in The Beloved. No "church" on earth is of that class, although it may have constituents who are the possession of The Lord.