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To: af_vet_1981
It was not that (most of) the scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees did not have printed copies of the scriptures, nor that there is anything wrong with being a scribe. It was that the spirit within them was wrong. They constantly strove with the Messiah and (most) did not bring forth fruits meet for repentance. They did not do what they required of others. They hated their targets, assured of their own righteousness, but lacking thereof. All the printing presses and vernacular translations have not saved the nations of the West which used to be called Christian. With no shortage of Bibles, faith did not, apparently, come by reading. Apostasy, contraception, abortion, and porneia are now in the laws and cultures of these nations.

Now for your next trick you go from arguing against the viability of "Bible only" - strawman that that is - based on rebellion against the Bible, to arguing against availability of the Bible based on rebellion against the Bible! All the while blissfully ignoring that where your alternative, Catholicism, predominates so does liberalism, and that most liberal are those who hold the Bible in the least esteem, while it remains that the most conservative are those who most strongly affirm the authority and integrity of Scripture and read it the most. Which is what you must attack if you will attack us.

Instead, all you can do is use a strawman as an argument, that the mere availability of the Bible is not enough to preserve society, which is not in debate, nor it is any argument against availability and esteem of it, since it does effect righteousness to those who can read and or hear it as being the wholly inspired and accurate word of God. And thus all attempts to attack this remain utterly vain.

125 posted on 02/23/2018 4:33:45 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
Despite the prevalence of the Bible translated into the vernacular the Christian faith continues to decline ...

Having the Bible in the hands of the people did not make them more Christian as a nation, or at least not sustainably. 

This experiment already occurred in Europe so that it is not a recent generation or two. 
54 posted on 2/21/2018, 6:27:31 AM by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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... that the mere availability of the Bible is not enough to preserve society, which is not in debate ...

So, absent the noise it seems to me you agree with the point ...
126 posted on 02/23/2018 5:07:12 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: daniel1212
How many times do we read in the Bible:

It is written...

...before we find:

Tradition says that...


136 posted on 02/25/2018 5:06:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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