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The Biblical Roots of the [Catholic] Liturgy
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-26-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/27/2017 8:37:19 AM PST by Salvation

The Biblical Roots of the Liturgy

November 26, 2017

Catholics are often unaware just how biblical the Sacred Liturgy is. The design of our traditional churches; the use of candles, incense, and golden vessels; the postures of standing and kneeling; the altar; the singing of hymns; priests wearing albs and so forth are all depicted in the Scriptures. Some of these details were features of the ancient Jewish Temple, but most are reiterated in the Book of Revelation, which describes the liturgy of Heaven.

The liturgy here on earth is modeled after the liturgy in Heaven; that is why it is so serious to tamper with it. The Book of Revelation describes the heavenly liturgy and focuses on a scroll or book that contains the meaning of life and the answers to all we seek. It also focuses on the Lamb of God, standing but with the marks of slaughter upon it. Does this not sound familiar? It is the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

We do well to be aware of the biblical roots of the Sacred Liturgy. Many people consider our rituals to be empty and vain, “smells and bells.” Some think austere liturgical environments devoid of much ritual are “purer” and closer to the worship in “spirit and in truth” that Jesus spoke of in John 4.

To such criticisms we must insist that our rituals, properly understood, are mystical and deeply biblical. Further, they are elements of the heavenly liturgy since almost all of them are mentioned as aspects of the worship or liturgy that takes place in Heaven. In this light, it is a serious mistake to set them aside or have a dismissive attitude toward them.

With that in mind we ought to consider the biblical references to the most common elements of Catholic and Orthodox liturgies. I have added my own occasional note in red.

Candles

Altar –

Chair –

Priests (elders) in Albs –

Bishop’s miter, priest’s biretta –

Focus on a scroll (book), The Liturgy of the Word

Incense, Intercessory prayer

Hymns –

Holy, Holy, Holy –

Prostration (Kneeling)

Lamb of God

Acclamations –

Amen! –

Silence –

Mary

Happy are those called to His “supper” –

Golden vessels, vestments –

Stained Glass –

Here is but a partial list, except for one quote drawn only from the Book of Revelation. I invite you to add to it.

Here is an awesome video with wonderful quotes:


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; liturgy
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To: infool7
I am impressed that you clicked on some of the links, I am curious as to on which ones you clicked.

I just picked two from each letter of the alphabet, completely at random. The vast majority of the names, I had never heard of, so it was purely random.

281 posted on 11/28/2017 9:18:01 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Elsie
Gee whiz Elsie, AND IT CAME TO PASS. It sounds like an advertisement for a sports team. 🏈 ⚽️🏀🏉🏐🏒🥅 The Mormons must have some great athletes.
I remember, when I was a member of the OTC, I was embarrassed by some of the peculiar doctrines, but again, who on earth has ever heard of Star Base Kolob? Who ever heard of magic underwear? Who ever heard of becoming a god, and ruling over planets? This is the stuff of fairy tales. 😱
282 posted on 11/28/2017 9:30:37 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: infool7
Here is likely your limitation - confirmation bias, having already concluded that the assertions about Rome are correct.

Here's an easy test. When you went to the Scriptures, had you already accepted Rome as "the one true [etc.] church?"

283 posted on 11/28/2017 9:41:16 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: MHGinTN
Where did you get those silly ideas from? Sadly your private interpretation carries no weight since it directly contradicts what I have received on good account from the Fathers, Doctors, Saints and Martyrs of the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus.
284 posted on 11/28/2017 9:43:53 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Here is likely your limitation - confirmation bias, having already concluded that the assertions about Rome are correct.

Here's an easy test. When you went to the Scriptures, had you already accepted Rome as "the one true [etc.] church?"

I accepted the Gospel on good reliable and trustworthy account from individuals that made no small sacrifice to provide it to me. I think you could take that same test only for your personal reasons you rejected His Church and worse yet enlist others to do the same.

285 posted on 11/28/2017 9:58:13 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: infool7; aMorePerfectUnion
What this has to with the Bereans is quite inconsequential.

You are admitting you are doing the very thing the Bereans did. Comparing church teaching to what those calling themselves spiritual teachers have to say.

If what they did is in consequential, then your comparing church theology to Scripture is likewise inconsequential.

My own examination of scripture has lead me personally to agree with the Gospel as presented to me by the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus, the tenants of which I have found to be reliable and trustworthy.

And here you are admitting you are doing the very thing we are being condemned for.

The only difference is, you came to the conclusion that the church agrees with Scripture.

We didn't come to the same conclusion.

So in effect, what we are being condemned for as being invalid, isn't the comparing Catholic theology with Scripture, but coming to different conclusions.

286 posted on 11/28/2017 10:02:10 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: infool7; aMorePerfectUnion
Your “gospel” is significantly different from the one with which I am familiar.

AMPU's gospel is the one found in Scripture and yes, it isn't what you are used to hearing as a Catholic because the Catholic gospel is different from what Scripture teaches.

287 posted on 11/28/2017 10:03:46 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: infool7

Those entrapped by cults are unable to see the errors CULTivated over centuries. The only data needed to see that Catholicism is a cult is look at the History of what has been added to the simple Gospel of Faith in Christ Jesus. Keep work work working, Catholic, those filthy rags might be a comfort ... until ...


288 posted on 11/28/2017 10:19:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom
AMPU's gospel is the one found in Scripture and yes, it isn't what you are used to hearing as a Catholic because the Catholic gospel is different from what Scripture teaches.

That's your opinion and you since you refuse to reveal the authority on which it is based, it carries absolutely no weight, with me at least. You are going to have to come up with something better than "because I said so" My immortal soul is at stake and given what you have provided for me to go on I cannot consider you an authority of sufficient credibility to doubt the Gospel as I have come to understand it.

289 posted on 11/28/2017 10:29:18 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: MHGinTN; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
those filthy rags might be a comfort ... until ...

Until what? The lake of fire closes in? 🔥

290 posted on 11/28/2017 10:34:56 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Perhaps ... but reality will slam the cultists before the lake of fire plunge.


291 posted on 11/28/2017 10:38:51 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Those entrapped by cults are unable to see the errors CULTivated over centuries. The only data needed to see that Catholicism is a cult is look at the History of what has been added to the simple Gospel of Faith in Christ Jesus. Keep work work working, Catholic, those filthy rags might be a comfort ... until ...

This was easier to find than it was to re-format. Perhaps you could describe your faith community so that I could make a determination for you that you might be failing to see?

Is Catholicism a Cult- Ten Reasons Why Catholicism Is Not a Cult

What those who label Catholicism a cult do not seem to understand is that even if one considers Catholicism to be unscriptural and greatly mistaken on many important doctrinal issues (certainly this writer does), it is simply misplaced and erroneous — for a variety of reasons — to classify Roman Catholicism as an anti-Christian cult. Let me give ten reasons why I say this.

(1) Cults, generally speaking, are small splinter groups with a fairly recent origin. Most American-based cults, for example, have to a greater or lesser degree splintered off from other Christian groups, and emerged in the nineteenth or twentieth centuries. Catholicism, on the other hand, is the largest body within Christendom, having almost a two-thousand-year history (it has historical continuity with apostolic, first century Christianity), and is the ecclesiastical tree from which Protestantism originally splintered.

(2) Cults are usually formed, molded, and controlled by a single individual or small group. The Catholic church, by contrast, has been molded by an incalculable number of people throughout its long history. Catholicism is governed by creeds, councils, and the ongoing magisterium.

(3) Cults typically exercise rigid control over their members and demand unquestioning submission, with disobedience punished by shunning and/or excommunication. While Catholicism has exercised a triumphalism and an unhealthy control over its members in times past, this is far less true today, especially since the Second Vatican Council. Contemporary Catholicism’s broad diversity as illustrated in Part One of this series certainly proves this point.

(4) An appropriate description of a cult is “a religious group originating as a heretical sect and maintaining fervent commitment to heresy.”10 Regardless of one’s criticism of Catholicism, even if it is heretical at certain points, it does not fit this description. It does not originate in heresy, and, as was mentioned before, it possesses a structural orthodoxy that other cults simply do not have (see comparison chart).

(5) Cults (when defined as heretical sects) are classified as such because of their outright denial or rejection of essential Christian doctrine. Historically, this has principally been a denial of the nature of God (the Trinity), the nature of the incarnate Christ (divine-human), and of the absolute necessity of divine grace in salvation (the Pelagian controversy).11 While Protestants have accused Catholicism of having an illegitimate authority and of confusing the gospel (two serious charges to be examined later), Catholicism does affirm the Trinity, the two natures of Christ, and that salvation is ultimately a gift of God’s grace (a rejection of Pelagianism).12 I challenge anyone to name a recognized cult that affirms the Trinity or the full deity and humanity of Jesus Christ (see comparison chart).

(6) Cults frequently have a low view of the Bible, replacing or supplementing it with their own so-called “sacred writings.” In fact, cults often argue that the Bible has been, to some extent, corrupted and therefore their writings are needed to restore the truth. While Catholicism’s acceptance of noncanonical writings (the Apocrypha) and placing of apostolic tradition on par with Scripture are fundamental problems to the Protestant, Catholics nevertheless retain a high view of the Bible (inspired and infallible) and see it as their central source of revelation.

(7) Cults usually have some kind of authoritarian, totalistic leader or prophet. While some feel that the pope fits this category, in reality the pope governs the church with heavy dependence upon the bishops (college of cardinals), and within the restrictions of the official teaching of the church. Protestants clearly disagree with the authority and exalted titles given the pope, but he still does not fit the category of a cult leader.

(8) A frequent characteristic of cults is their emphasis on a “remnant identity” — that is, they claim to be God’s exclusive agent or people who restore “authentic Christianity,” which has been corrupted or lost. Usually this type of restorationism has an accompanying anticreedal and antihistorical mindset. While Catholicism has at times been guilty of an unfortunate exclusivity13 (some Protestant churches have also), they emphatically deny restorationism, and strongly emphasize the continuity of God’s church throughout history.

(9) Those who classify Roman Catholicism as a cult (an inauthentic and invalid expression of Christianity) usually also give the Eastern Orthodox church the same classification. What they do not realize, however, is that if both of these religious bodies are non-Christian, then there was no authentic Christian church during most of the medieval period. Contrary to what some Protestants think, there was no independent, nondenominational, Bible-believing church on the corner (or in the caves) during most of the Middle Ages.14 Additionally, the schismatic groups who were around at the time were grossly heretical.15 So much for the gates of hell not prevailing against the church (Matt. 16:18). Some try to sidestep this argument by reasoning that as long as there were even a few individuals who remained biblically orthodox apart from the institutional or organized church, then those select individuals constituted God’s authentic church (a remnant) — thus the church was never truly overcome. This thinking, though containing an element of truth, is not completely correct. It is true that the church has an invisible16 and local dimension to it, but it also has a visible and organizational dimension (John 17:21). While the church is primarily a community of believers, it also functions as an institution through which believers encounter the ministry of the Word and the sacraments (baptism and the Lord’s Supper). Scripture does not allow for the sharp distinction between the spiritual and organizational dimensions of the church that some would like to draw.17

(10) Even with the serious problems evident in Roman Catholic theology from a Protestant point of view, Catholic doctrine overall does not fit the pattern of the recognized cult groups (see comparison chart). Catholicism affirms most of what the cults deny and possesses an orthodox foundation which all cult groups lack.

292 posted on 11/28/2017 10:41:05 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; metmom
Perhaps ... but reality will slam the cultists before the lake of fire plunge.

I hope you are right bro. I don’t want to see cultists take the Lake of Fire 🔥 plunge either, but, as I think it was you who pointed out, broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter in.
I don’t know why God chose so few for Heaven. I will never understand it, but my own guesstimate, is maybe 95 to 97% of the earth's population, will take the lake of fire plunge. Sad for sure, but they choose Hell over Heaven. Just be thankful, that you and I and others are seated in the heavenlies ALREADY.
I have no intention of waiting till I die, to see if I have “attained” Heaven. If others want to wait that long, that’s on them. I will have none of it.

293 posted on 11/28/2017 11:00:57 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: infool7

‘Your faith community’ ... there are none so blind as they who choose to not see, because they are comfy on the broad road, with their community of like minded, cultists.


294 posted on 11/28/2017 11:04:02 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: infool7; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
Would you be willing to throw away your rosaries and any "statutes" of Mary?

Would you cease to pray to her and instead pray only to God?

295 posted on 11/28/2017 11:06:10 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: metmom
You are admitting you are doing the very thing the Bereans did. Comparing church teaching to what those calling themselves spiritual teachers have to say.

If what they did is in consequential, then your comparing church theology to Scripture is likewise inconsequential.

I apologize perhaps my unfortunate word choice and typo of the word "do" led to your completely opposite misunderstanding. I should have use the word "irrelevant" instead of "inconsequential"

What this has to do with the Bereans is quite irrelevant. My own examination of scripture has lead me personally to agree with the Gospel as presented to me by the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus, the tenants of which I have found to be reliable and trustworthy.

Your “gospel” is significantly different from the one with which I am familiar. It is strange and foreign to the one that I have previously received on good account. I am asking you what your credentials are so that I can assess your credibility. It is quite simple really. If you have nothing better to offer than “because I said so” then I cannot accept your version without putting my own soul in serious peril.

Let me offer an analogy (of which I have been sternly warned against doing but read on at your own discretion)

Take for example the source code for a complex computer operating system that had been written by disciplined and credentialed programmers that used manuals filled with specifications for a particular kind of (CPU)processor and components that met specific requirements and in following those specifications, created, tested and implemented a system that was purchased by millions of customers and used successfully every day for many years.

It is impossible to imagine that undisciplined programmers of unknown and unproven ability, unfamiliar with the specifications, processors and components could, by chopping up and re-arranging bits of source code leaving out most of it, entire modules even and using different processors and compilers could somehow create as elegant, reliable and functional a system as the first group of developers.

This is what you are asking everyone to accept and it leaves me to wonder who it actually is, that is agitating and stirring up the crowds.


296 posted on 11/28/2017 11:07:07 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: infool7

Your chosen article is founded on an error, so what followed was tainted from the start: “Catholicism, on the other hand, is the largest body within Christendom ...” Christ is a person. Christianity is a relationship with a person, not a ‘endom’. You just keep working on that relationship with your chosen institutional religion. CHRISTIANS are in a relationship with a person, God with us ... “For I am in the Father and the Father is in me. If you have seen me, you have seen the Father”. Jesus speaking wqith His closest friends then, John 14.


297 posted on 11/28/2017 11:09:17 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ealgeone
Would you be willing to abandon your absurdly disordered understanding of the Catholic faith and your unhealthy obsession with beads, statues and Mary.

And say just one Hail Mary.
Hail Mary
Full of Grace
The Lord is with thee
Blessed art thow among women
and Blessed is the fruit of thy womb
Jesus
Holy Mary Mother of God
Pray for us
Now and at the hour of our death
Amen

298 posted on 11/28/2017 11:23:57 AM PST by infool7 (Pray, Think, Pray, Act, Pray Pray Pray...)
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To: infool7
But as a Romam Catholic.....how do you know your understanding of Scripture is correct without the priest to tell you it is or isn't?

We've been told on these threads an individual cannot sit down and read the scriptures and understand them.

299 posted on 11/28/2017 11:45:32 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: infool7

“I think you could take that same test only for your personal reasons you rejected His Church and worse yet enlist others to do the same.”

I didn’t reject “His Church.”

I accepted Him.

As a consequence of entrusting myself to Him alone for salvation, I became a member of His Church.

Worldly affiliations will not save you.

You reject His Word while claiming the ones you heard from another source are trustworthy.

Yet salvation is available to you now.


300 posted on 11/28/2017 11:51:24 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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