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De Mattei: Pope Francis and his “Lutheran turning point”
Rorate Caeli ^ | November 8, 2017 | Roberto de Mattei

Posted on 11/09/2017 1:57:06 PM PST by ebb tide

De Mattei: Pope Francis and his “Lutheran turning point”

Roberto de Mattei
Corrispondenza Romana
November 8 2017




On October 31st 2016, Pope Francis inaugurated the year of Luther by meeting with representatives of Lutheranism from all over the world in the Swedish Cathedral of Lund. Since then, meetings and “ecumenical” celebrations ad abundantiam have followed one after the other in the Catholic Church.

A year exactly from that date, the “”Lutheran turning point ”was sealed by a symbolic act the gravity of which very few have noticed. The Vatican Post Office issued a stamp which celebrates the birth of Protestantism on October 31st 1517, the date Luther hung his 95 theses on the door of Wittenberg Cathedral.

V Centenary of the Protestant Reformationcan be read at the top of the stamp, presented on October 31st of this year by the Vatican Philatelic Office.  The official communiqué describes the stamp: It depicts Jesus Crucified in the foreground on a gold, timeless background showing Wittenberg city. In an attitude of penance, on their knees respectively on the left and the right of the the Cross, Martin Luther holds a Bible, source and point of his doctrine, while Philip Melanchthon, theologian and a friend of Martin Luther’s, one of the most important protagonists of the Reformation, holds in his hand the Augsburg Confession, Confessio Augustuana, the first official exposition of the principles of Protestantism drawn up by him.”

The substitution of Our Lady and St. John at the foot of the Cross with the  two heresiarchs, Luther and Melanchthon is a blasphemous offense that no Catholic cardinal or bishop has, to date, openly condemned. The significance of this image is explained by the joint declaration of the World Lutheran Federation and the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity, published the same day as the stamp. The note refers to the positive outcome of the dialogue between Catholics and Lutherans, endorsing the “new understanding of those XVI century events which lead to our separation” and affirms how both sides are “very grateful for the theological and spiritual gifts received through the Reformation”.


As if that weren’t enough, around the same time, La Civiltà Cattolica, the Pope’s “unofficial” voice, celebrated Luther  with  an article by Father Giancarlo Pani (Martin Luther, Five Hundred Years Later, in La Civiltà Cattolica , of October 21st – November 4th 2017, pp. 119-130)

Father Pani is the same priest who said in 2014 that the Fathers of the Council of Trent had admitted the possibility of divorce and remarriage in the case of adultery, according to the custom established in the schismatic Greek Church. Now he is sustaining that Martin Luther was in no way a heretic, but an authentic “reformer”.  In fact, “ the theses of Wittenberg are not a challenge, nor a rebellion against authority, but the proposal to renew the proclamation of the Gospel, in the sincere desire for a “reform” in the Church”. (p.128). Despite the claim “ by the Church of Rome and Luther of incarnating the truth in toto and being dispensers of it ” “ the role Luther had as a witness to the faith cannot be denied: He is “the reformer”;  he was able to initiate a process of “reform”  where the results of it  have also benefited the Catholic Church.”

If this is the case then he has been unjustly persecuted and defamed by the Catholic Church for 500 years. The time has come to rehabilitate him.  And in order to rehabilitate him we cannot limit ourselves to presenting only his prophetic side, but must make the Church accept and put into practice his demands of reform. And the Post-Synod Exhortation Amoris Laetitia represents a decisive stage on this path. They are not wrong then the authors of the Correctio filialis  (to Pope Francis) when they underlined “the affinity between Luther’s ideas on the law, justification and matrimony and those taught  or favored by Pope Francis in Amoris laetitia and elsewhere.” 

At this point it should be remembered that Pope Francis, like Father Pani, belongs to the Company of Jesus, whose Founder, St. Ignatius of Loyola, was the champion of the Faith that Divine Providence raised up in the XVI century against Lutheranism. In Germany, apostles like St. Peter Canisio and Blessed Peter Fabro, fought every inch of the way against the heretics and on the terrain of anti-Protestant controversy no-one can surpass St. Robert Bellarmino.

La Civiltà Cattolica was founded in 1850, with the support of Pius IX, and had a role of doctrinal defense against the errors of the time for a very long time. From its very first edition, on April 6th 1850, it dedicated an extensive anonymous essay (by Father Matteo Liberatore) on The Political Rationalism of the Italian Revolution, in which he saw Protestantism as the cause of all modern errors. These theses were developed, among others, by two famous Jesuit theologians: Fathers Giovanni Perrone (Protestantism and the Rule of the Faith, La Civiltà Cattolica, Rome 1853, 2 voll.), and Hartmann Grisar (Luther, Herder, Freiburg im Breisgau, 1911/1912, 3 voll.).

But the commemoration of the Lutheran revolt made by the Jesuit journal in October 1917, the fourth centenary marking the 95 theses in Wittenberg, takes on a special meaning.  (Luther and Lutheranism, in La Civiltà Cattolica, IV (1917), pp. 207-233; 421-430). The theologian of La Civiltà Cattolica explained that “The essence of the Lutheran spirit, or rather Lutheranism, is rebellion in all of its extension and in all the force of its word. Rebellion, therefore, which is personified in Luther, was varied and profound, complex and very vast; which apparently appeared but was in fact violent, angry, trivial, obscene and diabolic; deep down it was studied, and directed according to the circumstances, focused on opportunistic ends and interests, intended and wanted with  measured, resolute determination.” (pp.208-309).

Luther, La Civiltà Cattolica continues, “initiated that contemptible parody, with which the rebel monk attributed to God, his ideas, blasphemies and the abominations of his perverted mind: he outraged the Pope in an unspeakable way in the name of Christ, he cursed Caesar in the name of Christ, he blasphemed against the Church, against bishops, against monks with absolute infernal impetuosity, in the name of Christ; he threw his religious habit onto the tree of Judas, in the name of Christ and in the name of Christ he was married sacrilegiously” (p.209). “With the very convenient pretext of following Scripture, as that which alone contains the word of God, he conducted a war on scholastic theology, tradition, canon law, all the institutions and precepts of the Church and councils: in place of these august and venerated things, he, Martin Luther, perjured monk and self-proclaimed doctor, put himself and his authority! Popes, doctors and Holy Fathers were no longer of any worth; the word of Marin Luther was worth more than all of them!  (p.212). The Lutheran theory of justification, in the end, “was born of Luther’s imagination, not by the Gospel or any other word of God revealed to the writers of the New Testament: for us, every Lutheran novelty finds its origins in the concupiscence he stimulated, and in his development of the falsification of Scripture or in formal lying” (p.214

Father Pani cannot deny that the opinion he gives of Luther is a 360 degree turnaround from the one his confreres gave in the same journal, a century ago.  In 1917,  he was censured as an apostate, a rebel, a blasphemer; today he is being praised as a reformer, a prophet, [even] holy. No Hegelian dialectic can harmonize yesterday’s judgment with today’s. Luther was either a heretic who denied some basic dogmas of Christianity, or he was a “witness to faith” who initiated  the Reformation of the Church, brought to completion by the Second Vatican Council and Pope Francis.

In short, every Catholic is called upon to choose whether to side with Pope Francis and the Jesuits of today, or be alongside the Jesuits of yesterday and the Popes of all time.

It is time for choices and to mediate precisely on St. Ignatius’ two standards (Spiritual Exercises, n. 137)* which will help us make them in these difficult times.



*Translator’s note: ”It will be here how Christ calls and wants all under His standard; and Lucifer, on the contrary, under his.” (no. 137, Spiritual Exercises).



Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
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To: metmom

If the Holy Spirit doesn’t guide in the selection process, the only ‘Pope’ was St. Peter, and he would be horrified at what the RCC did to him and to Mary.

If the Holy Spirit doesn’t guide the selection process, then there is no Roman Catholic church; it was illegitimate from the moment they turned from Christian to Roman.


341 posted on 11/10/2017 8:18:50 PM PST by Luircin
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To: metmom
Canon law is there for anyone o read and see for themselves.

Just like this letter; which was evidently sent by the CATHOLICS in power to the Gentiles.


Acts 15:22-29  
 
22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.


342 posted on 11/10/2017 8:20:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Wow. The pustules are bursting all over this thread. All the familiar fountains of demonic hate.

***

Yes, I know. If ebb and you would just stop spewing demonic pus everywhere, we could all get along.

But I suppose that treating others like you want to be treated is just too much to ask from the Catholics; it’s not like there’s a rule in their holy book about that.

Anyways, you didn’t answer the question. If Francis demanded that you recant your words about him or face excommunication, would you recant?


343 posted on 11/10/2017 8:22:30 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Arthur McGowan
Wow. The pustules are bursting all over this thread. All the familiar fountains of demonic hate.

Yes, it's good to see them all coming out of the woodwork.

344 posted on 11/10/2017 8:22:37 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
A police officer stops a driver for running a red light.

The guy is a real jerk and comes running back to the officer demanding to know why he is being harassed by the Gestapo!

The officer calmly tells him of the red light violation.

The “Motorist” instantly goes on a tirade, questioning the officer’s ancestry, sexual orientation, etc., in rather explicit terms.

The tirade goes on without the officer saying anything.

When he gets done with writing the ticket he puts an “AH” in the lower right corner of the narrative portion of the ticket.

He then hands it to the “Violator” for his signature.

The guy signs the ticket angrily, and when presented with his copy points to the “AH” and demands to know what it stands for.

The Officer says, “That’s so when we go to court, I’ll remember that you’re an Asshole!”

Two months later they’re in court.

The “Violator” has such a bad driving record he is about to lose his license and has hired a lawyer to represent him. (the usual bullshit).

On the stand the officer testifies to seeing the man run the red light.

Under cross examination the defense attorney asks:

“Officer is this a reasonable facsimile of the ticket you issued my client?”

Officer responds, “Yes sir, that is the defendants copy, his signature and mine, same number at the top.

Lawyer: “Officer, is there any particular marking or notation on this ticket you don’t normally make?”

Officer: “Yes sir, in the lower right corner of the narrative there is an “AH,” underlined.”

Lawyer: “What does the “AH” stand for, officer?”

Officer: “Aggressive and Hostile Sir.”

Lawyer: “Aggressive and Hostile?”

Officer: “Yes Sir.”

Lawyer: “Officer, Are you sure it doesn’t stand for Asshole?”

Officer: “Well Sir, You know your client better than I do!”

CASE CLOSED!

345 posted on 11/10/2017 8:24:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy
How do you think they will feel?

Lonely.

With most of their 'Forever Family' stuck on a level they'll never be able to climb out of to visit them in their Celestial glory..

346 posted on 11/10/2017 8:28:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Hmm. Sounds familiar.

It damn well SHOULD!!!


 

Mormonism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price)
  • accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Joseph Smith, Jr.
  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (polygamy accepted in early days)
  • believes in God the mother (who has conceived multitudes of spirit children)
  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a living, breathing Mormon, instead of a bible-defined child of God

  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9)- good works, water baptism and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture

Catholicism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with sacred tradition)

  • accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Mary

  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (celibacy still practiced among its clergy)
  • believes in the mother of God (who is the sinless Queen of Heaven)

  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a physically dead Catholic who was afterwards "canonized," instead of a bible-defined child of God
  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9) - good works, the sacraments, Mary and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending hundreds of millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture
  • teaches and practices bowing before and kissing statues
  • WORSHIPS the consecrated communion wafer as God
  • claims Mary is their life, sweetness, hope and most gracious advocate (as revealed in the Rosary)
  • claims Mary was raised bodily into Heaven
  • claims they get to Jesus by first going to Mary
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholicmormon.htm

347 posted on 11/10/2017 8:34:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Familiar; eh?


348 posted on 11/10/2017 8:35:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I’m not going to waste my time with you, except to point out that every statement you just made is a lie. Any third party reading this can find your lies contradicted in any Catholic catechism.

Attention Third Party Readers

Art's time is to precious to give you what he considers to be the Truth.

If you have time; wade through the recommended catechism tutorials.

Perhaps you'll find an answer there.


https://www.catechismclass.com/shop/courses.php

349 posted on 11/10/2017 8:49:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
Yes, it's good to see them all coming out of the woodwork.

You is one weird cat!

350 posted on 11/10/2017 8:50:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
So being a Catholic, you cannot claim invincible ignorance.

Nope, never have, nor avoided that factor deflected a question about it as you have with mine. I know see you have n been asked this in the past by a RC and not answered. What's to hide or deny?

351 posted on 11/10/2017 8:56:33 PM PST by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: Boogieman
So, by that reasoning, all the popes in history who weren’t elected by unanimous votes on first ballot were essentially antipopes? In Catholicism, unanimous does not mean every single one, as per response to lack of “unanimo us consent ” of the fathers ?,
352 posted on 11/10/2017 9:00:19 PM PST by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: Luircin
And so if Francis demanded that you disobey Scripture and recant all your FR posts about him, or else face excommunication, would you recant?

Can. 831 §1 Unless there is a just and reasonable cause, no member of Christ's faithful may write in newspapers, pamphlets or periodicals which clearly are accustomed to attack the catholic religion or good morals. Clerics and members of religious institutes may write in them only with the permission of the local Ordinary. - http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0017/_P2P.HTM

353 posted on 11/10/2017 9:01:11 PM PST by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Since we know there is nothing thing new under the sun, where do you think Mormonism came from? I heard someone say, years ago, that Mormon doctrine, may be somewhat based on Hinduism, you know there is a God spark in all of us, and I think they also have some sort of queen of Heaven doctrine. Ultimately, I think it all comes from paganism.


355 posted on 11/10/2017 11:17:02 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

Are you sober now?

***

And you wonder why people call you AH.

I guess if the boot fits.


356 posted on 11/10/2017 11:27:38 PM PST by Luircin
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To: daniel1212
1st Peter 5:8. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour 😀
357 posted on 11/11/2017 12:58:45 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: daniel1212
I know see you have n been asked this in the past by a RC and not answered.

Just HOW many times will the TarBaby be seen on the path before the sane ones of us here learn to just walk on past it?



358 posted on 11/11/2017 4:55:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“I ’m not going to waste my time with you, except to point out that every statement you just made is a lie.

This is just an assertion without proof

“Any third party reading this can find your lies contradicted in any Catholic catechism.

This is just another assertion without proof

Got Nothing?


359 posted on 11/11/2017 5:26:31 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

The problem is that we have posted from Catholic sources and then we get the excuse that we need to be” properly trained” to understand it correctly.

so sending us to links proves nothing.


360 posted on 11/11/2017 7:30:02 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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