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To: vladimir998

1) Wrong. You are justifying rather than condemning burning people at the stake. And you are still doing it.

2) Tyndale was martyred for translating the Bible. You justify killing him for heresy.

“Case closed.”

Not until judgment day.

3) You defend the actions of Catholic clergymen against Tyndale rather than condemning them.

“as if the soul were a minuscule matter.”

The soul is not saved by affirming some list of religious tenets as if they were an incantation. You exchange the Gospel of Christ for a manmade religion. The real tradition of the Church and the doctrine and example of Christ are exemplified by the life of William Tyndale who sacrificed everything to spread the word of God.

The nature of false religion is illustrated in the Bible by people such as Cain, Nimrod, Jannes and Jambres, Balaam, Jezebel and Ahab, the Herodians, the Saducees, the Pharisees, and the idol-making metal workers during the acts of the apostles. All these persecuted the true worshippers of God. And so did the religious clergymen who killed men like Wycliffe and Tyndale.

Matthew 15:9
In vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.

It is NOT bearing false witness to post the obvious and logical conclusion of your words. That conclusion is true. And you have provided zero evidence otherwise.

The evidence is clear and unassailable:

1) You have repeatedly called Tyndale a heretic.

2) You have repeatedly stated that it was for this heresy he was executed.

3) You have refused to denounce his execution as wrong.

You have supported the morality and legality of his execution by claiming that Tyndale’s execution for heresy is merely a historical fact (though you do not say the same about Joan of Arc), that his execution was legal (and you refuse to call it murder), and that the Bible supports killing people for false religious practices (it was in this exact context that you quoted the Bible about putting to death idolaters in the Old Testament).

It is the inescapable conclusion of any sane and rational mind that you justify the killing of people for disagreeing with your religious tenets. You have yet to provide a solitary shred of evidence to support otherwise. You have failed to demonstrate ANY means by which a person can argue the positions you have and still not hold the opinions which are logically derived from those positions.

You do not condemn Tyndale’s murder because you essentially argued that it was not murder and was a justifiable execution. You have posted the same defense of these heinous acts as the NAZI guards in Nuremberg: it was legal, we were just following the law.

You are hiding a murder weapon under your religious cloak. The bulge is showing. You angrily deny that it is there, claiming I am “bearing false witness” against you. But when asked to expose it to the light you refuse. Your charge of bearing false witness would not hold up in any court of law, nor will it hold up in the Heavenly courts of God, the righteous judge. And though I can not see the weapon you are hiding with my eyes, God can and does. I can not see your heart, but God does.

You will not be able to hide your murderous weapon of the religion of Cain when you appear before God. There will be no religious cloak to hide it. In His court, your will be disarmed, and your secrets exposed.

For now, you can continue to hide your secrets for whatever reason you’ve decided to do so. You have neither answered the questions I’ve asked nor given even the slightest defense or explanation as to WHY you stubbornly refuse to answer them.

I remain confident of the reason. You have some dark and sinister views which you wish to hide from scrutiny. You do hold views which justify the torture and killing of those who disagree with your religion.

Feel free to clear your name and prove me wrong as I have repeatedly given you the opportunity to do.

Again, you failed to answer my question of whether Joan of Arc was executed for heresy.

Again, you failed to answer whether you would condemn the actions of those who had Tyndale put to death.

Condemn the murder of Tyndale. Or state that Joan of Arc was “executed for heresy” historically as you claimed about Tyndale. Or give some explanation or defense as to why you can not do either of these two things. Otherwise, you are just a broken record protesting my conclusions and name calling to distract from your own abominable views.


217 posted on 10/20/2017 5:31:47 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

1) You falsely accused me of something I never did. You proved it was false by never being able to substantiate it no matter how many opportunities you were given to do so.

2) Tyndale was a heretic - as even most Protestants would admit if they already agree that psychopannychism is heretic.

3) Tyndale was executed for heresy. He was NOT executed for translating the Bible since that was not heresy.

4) I don’t have to approve or condemn Tyndale’s execution. His heresies, his trial and his execution having nothing to do with me. You’re doing something similar in one sense:

I have repeatedly pointed out that Tyndale believed in psychopannychism yet you have not condemned him for his heresy.

And more importantly:

You repeatedly bear false witness against me and yet you don’t see the injustice or sinfulness of your actions yet your snowflake feelings seem so hurt that I don’t bother to explicitly approve or condemn Tyndale’s execution 500 years ago - as it matter whether I do or don’t either one. It’s not 500 years ago. Your responsible for bearing false witness NOW - yet you just make excuses.

You just keep proving John Henry Newman right: “To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation.” (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)


218 posted on 10/20/2017 6:08:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: unlearner; FourtySeven

Wow, I didn’t even see this embarrassing mistake of yours:

Luther would be horrified by the world he forged
10/17/2017, 5:36:41 PM · 208 of 218
unlearner to FourtySeven

“I don’t see how More could have had any hand in Tyndale’s death since he was dead for more than a year before Tyndale’s execution.”

You appear to be correct.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3594481/posts?page=207#207

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Incredible.

You didn’t know the timeline - but that didn’t stop you from repeatedly posting in error.

You apparently didn’t know about Tyndale’s heretical beliefs, but that doesn’t stop you from saying he wasn’t executed for heresy when anyone who actually reads about him knows his belief in psychopannychism means he was a heretic.

You falsely claim he was executed for translating the Bible when all the charges against him were for heresies and not about translating the Bible.

Your failure on the facts is complete. Yet you bear false witness against me.


219 posted on 10/20/2017 6:18:21 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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