Wow, I didn’t even see this embarrassing mistake of yours:
Luther would be horrified by the world he forged
10/17/2017, 5:36:41 PM · 208 of 218
unlearner to FourtySeven
“I don’t see how More could have had any hand in Tyndale’s death since he was dead for more than a year before Tyndale’s execution.”
You appear to be correct.
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Incredible.
You didn’t know the timeline - but that didn’t stop you from repeatedly posting in error.
You apparently didn’t know about Tyndale’s heretical beliefs, but that doesn’t stop you from saying he wasn’t executed for heresy when anyone who actually reads about him knows his belief in psychopannychism means he was a heretic.
You falsely claim he was executed for translating the Bible when all the charges against him were for heresies and not about translating the Bible.
Your failure on the facts is complete. Yet you bear false witness against me.
The heresy charges were a pretext.
It is clear from all of the attacks that Thomas More made on Tyndale, and the fact that 6 men were executed (i.e. murdered for those of us who unlike you disagree with killing people for their religious beliefs) for the alleged “crime” of heresy, that Thomas More was complicit in the pursuit of murdering Tyndale or, at the very least, similar men.
It is quite ironic that he is held up by your religion as a saint and martyr.
The Bible does not treat heresy as a capital crime or even a crime under civil law.
Nor is there any teaching of Christ or tradition of the apostles that supports such a heinous ideology.
But that has not stopped you from supporting it.
I admitted my error. That’s what honest people do. Unlike you.
Talk about straining at a gnat and swallowing the camel.
“You apparently didn’t know about Tyndale’s heretical beliefs, but that doesn’t stop you from saying he wasn’t executed for heresy when anyone who actually reads about him knows his belief in psychopannychism means he was a heretic.”
If I could interview every last non-clergy person who attends your local Catholic congregation, I’d wager that not a single one would be able to identify what psychopannychism is or in what way it disagrees with their or their church’s views.
Any one of your congregants could have easily been accused of heresy as a pretext to murder them 500 years ago. But of course they would simply recant any belief that would cause them to be killed. But it would not be because they believed or understood these doctrines. It would simply be for fear of death and to avoid things like being put on the rack.
You have a sick and depraved mind when you can not renounce these dastardly acts in the name of religion, and fail to do so in order to cling to your supposedly correct doctrines.
It is men like yourself that made it necessary for the Reformation to occur. Stubborn, proud clergymen who could justify the most demonic and diabolical wickedness in the name of Jesus necessitated men like Tyndale and Wycliffe to operate outside of the auspices and drapes of religion that wicked men such as yourself hold to be sacrosanct.
You are living proof that the incredible stubborn unbelief, unrepentance, hypocrisy, and murderous hatred that drove the religious leaders of Christ’s day to murder Him is still alive and operating under the guise of true religion today.
Thank God that Evangelical Protestants formed this nation so there would be a place on earth to flee from the tyrannical religious practices of men such as yourself.
Jesus warned of false religious leaders “who desire to go around in long robes” in Mark 12:38.
Who does that sound like today? Does not sound like the Evangelical Protestant Christians I know of, including the ministers of their churches.
Jesus condemned the practice of religious leaders who loved to be given prestigious titles such as “father” in Matthew 23:9.
Who does that sound like today? Does not sound like the Evangelical Protestant Christians I know of, including the ministers of their churches.
Jesus condemned the religious practice of empty repetitions in prayer and copying heathen religious customs in Matthew 6:7.
Who does that sound like today?
Jesus warned against the religious leaders who nullify the commandments of God to keep their man-made traditions in Mark 7:13.
I can think of a group of religious leaders that demand their adherents to do this today. They ignore God’s commands of idolatry and institute practices bowing and kneeling before images, praying toward those images, offering those images flowers and incense. They twist communion which Christ instituted to remember Him in order to give praise to other religious figures.
When the heathen tried to offer sacrifices to Paul and Barnabas as deities in Acts 14, they ripped their clothes and insisted that no one do such a thing.
Yet a certain religious group today makes images of men like Paul, and advocates bowing to such images and offering things like flowers, incense, etc.
But since these are just images they can not rip their clothes and protest.
When John bowed to the angel in Revelation, the angel forbad him. John and other apostles strictly warned Christians of the dangers of being led into idolatry.
Yet a certain religious group today makes images of angels, and advocates bowing to such images and praying toward them.
When a man wanted to bow before Peter in Acts 10, Peter made him stand up because he protested that he is only a man.
Yet a certain religious group today makes images of men like Peter, and advocates holding communion in honor of such persons / images of such persons.
But the apostles warned of eating things offered to idols from the first days of the Church (in Acts at the first council) to the last (in Revelation).
They said that religious leaders who taught such practices were like Balaam who cast a stumbling block to cause Israel to sin. Again, false religion trying to destroy people of true faith.
Paul was single but said he had the liberty to marry of he so chose.
1 Corinthians 9:5
Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
The apostolic tradition required bishops / elders / overseers to be married and have children (raised well).
1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach.
Paul prophesied about the religious doctrine of demons that would come, a doctrine that forbad marriage:
1 Timothy 4:3
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Which religious group could he have been talking about?
Jesus commended, in Revelation, those who tested claims of apostleship. The Bible plainly states that apostolic authority is only conferred by divine appointment, and must be to someone who has seen the risen Christ and has performed apostolic signs confirming their claim to apostolic authority. And even though Paul had proof of apostolic authority, the scriptures commend the Bereans for verifying his doctrine by searching the scriptures.
Acts 17:11
These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.
Yet the Catholic Church demands unquestioned allegiance. It has killed people for attempting to equip men and women with the ability to search the scriptures as God desires. It has killed people for questioning it’s doctrines and practices. It has claimed to itself, not merely a line of succession, but the ability to add to the traditions of the apostles. It claims apostolic authority without the evidence. But true men and women of faith have tested these apostolic claims and found them to be lies, just as Jesus commended the churched who did so.
The early church fathers understood the prophecies of Daniel and the teachings of Christ and the apostles about the end times events Daniel spoke of. They recognized the coming apostasy of the church of Rome.
1. Tertullian (155–222): He spoke about the future breakup of the Roman Empire, “whose separation into ten kingdoms will bring on antichrist.” (The division of the Roman Empire happened circa 476 A.D.)
2. Cyril of Jerusalem (315–386): “There shall arise, at the same time, ten kingdoms of the Romans at different places, indeed, the reigning all of them at the same time. After them, the eleventh will be antichrist, who, through magical wickedness, will seize the power of the Romans.” The Papacy made Rome the seat of its authority, and took the title of Pontifex Maximus from pagan Rome for its supreme bishop, the pope.
3. Jerome (347–420): “Says the apostle [Paul to the Thessalonians], ‘Unless the Roman Empire should first be desolated, and antichrist proceed, Christ will not come.’”
4. Augustine, bishop of Hippo (540–604): “I say confidently therefore, that whosoever calls himself Universal Bishop, or even desires in his pride to be called such, is the forerunner of antichrist.”
Yet, the Catholic Church demands that all other congregations throughout the world submit to Rome.
Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit would lead His disciples into all truth.
John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
But the Catholic Church resists the Spirit of God, claiming the power to explain scriptures to be reserved to itself.
The pattern we see in the religious leaders of Israel we see repeated in Catholicism:
Acts 7:51
You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.