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To: Fantasywriter; ravenwolf
Ravenwolf, I will put it to you straightforwardly. ‘Adelphos,’ was a very common, much-used word. If there were any incidences of it being used to mean, ‘cousin,’ we’d have heard about it. You know yourself who would have told us about it: Catholic scholars.

For example. We have Plutarch, Josephus and Chrysostom. If one of those had used, ‘adelphos,’ to mean, ‘cousin,’ there would be thousands of mentions of this fact. Anyone who believed Jesus had brothers would be (rhetorically) bludgeoned with it; we both know that’s true.


Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

John, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verse twenty five
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

1,017 posted on 08/21/2017 7:29:38 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Ravenwolf, I will put it to you straightforwardly. ‘Adelphos,’ was a very common, much-used word.


You are right, it was not used as cousin but it was used for brethren and it was used for kinsman which could be anything.

Genesis13
8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.

They were not brothers but Lot was a nephew.

Also Mary the wife of Cleophas

Matthew 27:56

56 among whom were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

It never mentions Virgin Mary being the mother of these two
but it does mention Mary the wife of Cleophas being their mother.

af_vet_1981 I believe we are getting too tied up with definitions.


1,041 posted on 08/22/2017 10:40:15 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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