Posted on 08/02/2017 2:07:44 PM PDT by detective
The Venezuelan Episcopal Conference (CEV) has publicly invoked the intercession of the Virgin Mary to free the nation “from the claws of communism,” in a clear reference to the regime of President Nicolás Maduro.
“Blessed Virgin, Mother of Coromoto, heavenly Patron of Venezuela, free our country from the claws of communism and socialism,” the CEV posted on Twitter this Sunday, complete with an image of Santa Maria and a Venezuelan flag.
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What?
Thank you for your good intent. It lays the foundation for friendship.
You've long been dishing out that kind of thing towards persons here, yourself -- just being all nicey-nicey about it when you do so.
My way is more honest. Besides, my judgement is not necessarily rash. It comes from years of watching and interacting with you.
It's not like this is my first rodeo.
I knew too you would react as you did -- playing the "I'm so offended" (that I don't have to deal with how my arguments have just been squarely refuted) card.
I will tell you though, if I see the same things posted that I've just refuted -- you will be hearing from me again. Don't forget. If the blarney won't allow itself be stopped, I'll keep putting a hurt on it until it decides to stop, or hits the road ---taking the act elsewhere. Understand?
Pray.
They've got a 'Mary' tree in Castroville too, I think. On the West side of town, about halfway between the last cluster of buildings on the North side of the road not far from Hwy 1. But I didn't see anybody bowing down and praying to it. Must have gone by on the wrong day, or wrong time of day? lol
Remember the Central Texan Barbecue? That guy used treat me, and my younger brother real good when we went there. Good Texans, from D-FW, fishing out on the West Coast, sometimes putting into the Slough (Moss Landing).
Now, I think my brother may have only a couple of days left...I'd be surprised if he pulls out of it -- and if he did, there's not much hope for much 'cept lots more pain.
Stevie Ray was from Oak Cliff (Dallas).
It was kinda' funny.
Truth, or Consequences.
Not just an old, now long defunct NBC radio show, or the town down in Southern New Mexico named after it...
When do you think that she said this?
Alanus de Rupe (Alain de la Roche) was a 15th-century Dominican preacher, best known for his efforts to promote the Rosary. Alanus claimed to have experienced a vision by which it was revealed to him that the Blessed Virgin Mary had appeared to St. Dominic and gave him the Rosary as a means to combat the Albigensian movement. Alanus de Rupe's revelation concerning St. Dominic and the Rosary was generally accepted until the 17th century when the Bollandists concluded that the account of Dominic's supposed apparition of Our Lady of the Rosary is not mentioned in any documents of the Church or Dominican Order prior to the accounts of Alanus over two hundred years later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_rosary_promises
Pray that God’s will be done. The Lord’s prayer is always a big help to me.
That's a given.
Been there, and done that, but that one is not only always worth revisiting, it is continually needful to continually revisit...
But what I'd like to know, just between you and me, is;
When will you stop posting (and defending) Marianist claptrap?
The word κεχαριτωμένῳ as used in Sirach is identical to the Greek term in Luke 1:28, save for the one letter denoting gender.
Yet when in Sirach is not subject to the same impositions of 'extra' meaning --while Douay-Rheims alone translates as "justified man" ---all other English translation of the same translate as some form of "gracious", etc.
There you go. "Graced" rather than "favored". You should be happy? The past tense is part of the word as employed in Sirach, also, though. Ha. Maybe not so happy?
Then there is the part about how it's impossible to conceive (no pun intended) that the angel was talking to Mary ---in GREEK(!)
This is important, for you've long been saying that the angel spoke a particular *precise* Greek word to Mary.
If an angel did not speak that precise Greek word to Mary (but was speaking some other language to her, such as Hebrew, or Aramaic) and the term come to us from Luke having borrowed from Sirach 18:17 (which was written in Greek in the first place) then all this Greek word parsing biz has been mostly all for naught -- for there is otherwise no trace of 'early church' theology that supports some notion of Mary being fully --not ever- not even in the slightest -- a sinner herself-- just as the rest of humanity (except for Jesus) has from time of Adam, always been.
It is "hateful" of me to say so? More than a mere few of your coreligionists would say so. You may object here, saying you are not responsible for their excesses -- but you ARE always working at upholding the underlying Romish, Marianist theology, and will seemingly say anything in order to never have to admit defeat. That helps set the stage for the rest of the FRomish crew to launch into their "they hate Mary!" false accusations while clinging to their false notions (the ones they got from the RCC).
The dogma of 'Immaculate Conception' -- whatever can be honestly said about it --cannot include that is was 'apostolic teaching' from the beginnings of Christianity. Of that there is no doubt.
Something's got to give, but it will not be me, giving up and giving in to cunningly crafted theological error regarding the virgin Mary, and grotesque frauds such as the Virgin of Guadalupe image, which "image" was not miraculous, but only a painting that in features such as the 'rays' surrounding image representative of Mary mirrored dozens of others paintings in Europe just-prior contemporary to the Guadelupe image's first appearance.
Multiple images (paintings and carvings bearing the 'rays", some with the stars, a few with the folded cloth at the bottom, etc.) that PRE-dated the Virgin of Guadelupe image.
Boom.
Would you like to see them? A few months ago I'd found six, to ten of them -- had kept the tabs open on the desktop for more than week, but suffered a browser crash, so never got around to posting them to you, back when you had chided me for using the word "fraud".
I could possibly find them again. Maybe -- since I do not recall the precise search terms I used... Ah! Now it's coming back to me, a little.
It was serendipitous. I'd come across textual mention of there being many other similar images among the reams of info I'd been wading through concerning the painting in Mexico.
You really should take a look at them. And look at the information regarding the Virgin of Guadalupe Herrera Madura Spain. Representative likeness of that was carried by -- who? He went to Mexico, and took the image with him when he did. Put it all together with history of other Marian artwork, and the linage of the fraudulent "miracle" image/painting down in Mexico comes into stark relief.
BUT -- if you insist I find them, then I insist that you accept my usage of the word "fraud" (and that would be religious fraud - even if you do not agree with the word itself being applicable) to describe the goings-on, and 'just-so' story telling associated with the painting (the so-called 'tilma' which is NOT made of agave fiber) that has misled literally millions of Mexicans into thinking that "Mary" not only "appeared" to a man in Mexico -- but that the painting itself is of supernatural origin.
Do we have a deal? Those are my terms of truce.
If not -- then you know what Andrew said --
It does in the Catholic world-view when talking about the "infusion" of grace versus the "imputation" of righteousness. It's the soul gas tank example I gave a number of days ago. Gotta keep that tank on FULL in order to make it to heaven. Mortal sins empty the tank like it sprang a leak and only confession and penance WITH good works can bring it back to nearly full (seeing as RCs believe most people will have to go through Purgatory first to top off the tank). I can't understand why it doesn't register that we are saved because of CHRIST'S righteousness and not our own - which IS the Biblical view.
If God could preserve Mary from sin without rescinding her free will
Then He could do so for all of us and the cross was not necessary. I doubt Christ went to the cross for the fun of it and along Mary sinless makes a mockery of His sacrifice.
“The fact remains that the Angelic Salutation was to the “Grace-Filled One,” not to the “Sinful One.””
1. Grace-filled one is not the opposite of sinful one. That is a pointless assertion.
2. There was no reason to call Mary “sinful one” - this is true of every human other than Christ. Read Romans 3 - “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.”
3. Mary was a unique recipient of God’s grace *among* women, as she would bear Messiah.
“She was preserved from sin by the One whom she worshiped as “God, my Savior”
Another assertion apart from Scripture. Simple wishogesis.
Every human has the life of Adam inside. For this reason, all humans are born separated from God and in need of a Savior, and this apart from any individual act of sin committed.
Mary was born as any human, with the life of Adam, and separated from God. This is why she needed a Savior.
I think we can accurately say that there are SEVERAL RCs here who do the same. How many times have we factually corrected the false claims "Luther threw out books of the Bible" or "Luther added to and changed the Bible" or "Catholics wrote and gave us the Bible", etc.? But, rather than dispute the factual record if it is not believed, the argument is saved up for the NEXT time it can be trotted out. I think there really is no other reason than it's intentional, knowingly false and used in the hopes some unsuspecting schmo swallows it.
So sorry to hear about your brother. I’ll be praying for him and your family.
Sorry typing from iphone
Should read and making Mary out to be sinless makes a mockery of His sacrifice.
Very thoughtful post, thank you.
They have a Mary cult that revolves around a cement statue made by human hands in a cow pasture in Alabama, based on the myth that Mary came and had a chat there.
They don’t care that over and over again God’s Word is denigrated in favor of worshiping a dead, sinful woman.
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