Question: "Are apparitions of Mary, such as Lady Fatima, true messages from God?"

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[WrightWings]

No -- Think about this for a minute.

You would readily agree that God has the Power to Forgive, right? Then why couldn't He have Forgiven Mary in advance?

I mean, He is God...

[metmom]

What I’m saying is that Scripture passages that say “all have sinned” or the “all are born under the Law,” do not constitute a refutation of the Immaculate Conception and the sinlessness of Mary, precisely because the authors were not thinking about Mary at all. They were addressing audiences who WERE sinners—100% of them. They were instructing those audiences about THEIR sinful condition, not about theological issues regarding Mary.

And you know this how? Did the authors tell you of their intent to not include Mary in *all have sinned*?

[metmom]

What I’m saying is that Scripture passages that say “all have sinned” or the “all are born under the Law,” do not constitute a refutation of the Immaculate Conception and the sinlessness of Mary, precisely because the authors were not thinking about Mary at all. They were addressing audiences who WERE sinners—100% of them. They were instructing those audiences about THEIR sinful condition, not about theological issues regarding Mary.

And you know this how? Did the authors tell you of their intent to not include Mary in *all have sinned*?

[MHGinTN]

In my humble opinion, OUR best route is to not elevate the Blessed Mother of Jesus to a status beyond what God has given us to know by trusting His Word.

Forgive me, but I must go a bit further. A mother exists before her offspring. Mary existed before the human body of Jesus, so she can absolutely be called the blessed Mother of the Human Being of Jesus. She did not exist before the God nature of Jesus, so she is not the Mother of God.

[metmom]

How are we to know -- really???

Scripture. That's how.

Sin entered the world through the man. The sin nature is inherited through the father, which is why Jesus could have a sinless nature even though He was born from a sinful human mother.

[BlueDragon]

If not for special pleadings you'd have no argument.

What you you do have is pure invention, set into place void of apostolic teaching, resulting in even a "different" Gospel.

[metmom]

He chose ahead of time to forgive everyone for their sin.

His choosing to forgive them in advance or not, does not mean they didn’t or won’t sin.

His forgiveness does not render someone incapable of sinning.

[MHGinTN]

Would you utterance sound better in Spanish?

[WrightWings]

In my humble opinion, OUR best route is to not elevate the Blessed Mother of Jesus to a status beyond what God has given us to know by trusting His Word. Forgive me, but I must go a bit further. A mother exists before her offspring. Mary existed before the human body of Jesus, so she can absolutely be called the blessed Mother of the Human Being of Jesus. She did not exist before the God nature of Jesus, so she is not the Mother of God.

Thank you ---- All I am saying is that it is *possible* that God could have Pre-Forgiven Mary of all of her Sins, in order to be "...Mary, Full of Grace...", (that Bible verse).

Maybe He didn't ---- But if God Chose Mary to give birth to our Lord ---------- ***SHOULDN'T*** She have a place above all other humans (and, yet, STILL need Forgiveness of Sin(s) to enter Heaven)?

[WrightWings]

I am sorry --- you, obviously, don't believe that God is capable of what I believe He Is.

Have a nice evening...

[MHGinTN]

I have an opinion, but I don’t think even Humble Blessed Mary would want to be thought of as ‘above all other humans’. Since Jesus said no one comes to the Father except by HIM, I don’t think Mary would want to be made a contradiction to that as a co-mediatrix.

[WrightWings]

You're, of course, right.

Have a good evening.

[GBA]

Generally speaking, as near as I can tell as a man, pregnancy changes a woman.

Thinking metaphysically, I wonder in what ways a woman, Mary, who immaculately conceived and brought baby Jesus into this world, was changed by her pregnancy.

I can't get my head around it. I mean, there's Luke 8:48 and miracles galore, but then there's Mary.

That she was chosen to be the mother of Jesus, the Mother of God, or perhaps more specifically, the Mother of the Son of God, tells me she was unique among woman and all of humanity.

The NT is about Jesus, of course, not Mary, but that doesn't mean that Mary isn't busy now doing what Her Son wants Her to do. Why wouldn't she be?

[mlizzy]

On Maundy Thursday, after Mass, I noticed our Mary statue had a tear in the corner of her left eye, so I quickly grabbed my new iPhone camera while asking God to not let the tear fall until it was figured out how to take the picture. "Why do Catholics pray for Mary's assistance so much," one might ask? Her response to Thursday (tears for her Son and maybe our family) should help with the answer.

Many prayers for those who disrespect Our Lady. When their time comes, the Lord may return the favor and disrespect them as well. And for that, too, Mary cries. And so does her Son.

[Salvation]

Thank you for that.

[Arthur McGowan]

So many people think that people in heaven are doorsteps. They know and care nothing about us, do not pray for us, do nothing.

Of course, they have a number proof-texts, ripped out of context, misused in the way typical of propagandists. Applying them to an issue that the author did not even have in mind.

When all else fails, they repeat over and over that dead people are “dead.” That’s right, they say that the blessed in heaven are not alive at all.

[ealgeone]

Many prayers for those who disrespect Our Lady. When their time comes, the Lord may return the favor and disrespect them as well. And for that, too, Mary cries. And so does her Son.

Catholics continue to confuse the exposure of their false doctrines regarding Mary with the Biblical view of Mary as hatred of Mary.

They couldn't be more wrong.

Christianity accords to Mary what is noted in Luke. "For He has had regard for the humble state of His bondslave; For behold, from this time on all generations will count me blessed." Luke 1:48 NASB

[ealgeone]

Sorry I am not the king of insulting the Mother of God and lead anti-Catholic poster on Freerepublic like you.

Yet you insult God when you conflate the abilities of Mary as the Roman Catholic has with those of Jesus and the Spirit, when you kneel before and idol of God and pray before as the Roman Catholic does in contradiction of the commandment not to do so.

I think we need to be more concerned about insulting God than Mary.